Late To The Party w/ Dody and Reggie
"2 Regular Guys Having Irregular Conversations"
Late To The Party w/ Dody and Reggie
Gimmie A Hug!
This episode explores the evolving landscape of hip-hop, from classic diss tracks and nostalgic performances to Kendrick Lamar's recent Super Bowl appearance. We dive into how the industry's marketing machine impacts artists and the way audiences perceive them over time.
• Discussing Super Bowl performances and their cultural significance
• Analyzing the historical diss tracks landscape, focusing on 50 Cent and Ja Rule
• Debating Kendrick Lamar's halftime show and audience reception
• Exploring the effects of nostalgia on hip-hop fandom
• Examining the role of the music industry "machine" in artist careers
• Reflecting on the future of hip-hop as it continues to evolve
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My man's books be looking like how they look. Yeah, I get you. You know what I mean, but that's what we do. This is what we're going to start with today. Who's that? I've been on this record since this week, man. Ever since the Super Bowl, I've just been what he do. Don't back down. 50 went on the run. Y'all wasn't tired. This, the best 100% Must exist. See see this list.
Speaker 2:Look nigga now listen Magic.
Speaker 1:Steve Yo, welcome to another episode of Late to the Party with Doty and Reggie. I'm Reggie, I'm Doty and I wanted to start with that because, like literally ever since the Super Bowl, I've just been on listening to diss tracks Like and I forgot and I ain't forget about Back Down for 50 Cent. But it's like Jai had to go against, like a juggernaut like y'all talking about, like Drake is 20 V1, like Jai was going against the machine.
Speaker 2:Jai went against a nigga who had four to five. He had all.
Speaker 1:He had the stones, he had the stones the machine, jai went against a nigga who had four to five he had all he had, the stones, he had four, and then, when he beat Jai, the R&B hymn came out.
Speaker 2:He was like you know what you can take the gauntlet 50 was and I was thinking about this.
Speaker 1:I've been listening, like I said, I've been listening to, like you know, battle raps and like diss tracks. But I also been seeing people like the year Kendrick had was a great year, awesome, but people are saying nobody has had a year bigger than him. And I don't know from what standpoint we look at when we talk about that, because when 50 now 50 didn't get the Super Bowl, but when 50 came out.
Speaker 1:You can go way before 50 though, bro. Let's go Like that's, but that's the first one that came to mind. Okay, right before 50,. Who would you say?
Speaker 2:DMX had a year, dmx had a, but would you consider Nelly having a year as well?
Speaker 1:Ah, Nelly had a year. No, I'm just saying Nelly had a run too.
Speaker 2:If we're going to start at 50. Nelly had a run too, just start going back bro.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you see what I'm saying, and that's what I was saying. When people are asking that and doing that, is it a better run than Tupac?
Speaker 2:I mean like a year.
Speaker 1:Let me take my jacket off, but I feel like when people been asking that and I know we jumping right into it but welcome. But I know, like, know everybody talking about that and I'm trying to not let nostalgia piece my mind to it Because I know what happened in the past. But I'm also a big fan of Kendrick so I'm like this year has been great, but he I mean besides getting the Super Bowl and the five Grammys and I know you can't say besides, because that's part of it- but at this point I mean, when you say, besides the five Grammys, doesn't he always have a Grammy run Always?
Speaker 2:So I mean, you can't even, you don't have to say that.
Speaker 1:I just been trying to think about that, but I didn't even think about Nelly.
Speaker 2:But I'm just saying there's a lot of motherfuckers that done had runs especially a year, especially a year but ain't nobody had no Drake type shit.
Speaker 1:You see what I'm saying and I guess that's what it is when you put it in perspective of the the dish run that he had against one of the, yeah, the dish run that he had against one of the I mean not one like the biggest rap artists Damn, would you say he would you say he clips the machine?
Speaker 2:bro who, kendrick, I mean nah, because he had the machine. I was about to say he but you got to have something for the machine to even Exactly.
Speaker 1:Plug up into what you got going on, and that's another thing People be saying if they made Drake, make another Drake, and I agree with that. You just can't make a.
Speaker 2:Drake Not to take away from my man, because I'm a huge Kendrick fan, but they kind of did. We don't need your light-skinned prettiness. We can get a hook and polish him up you know, what I'm saying, prettiness. We can get a hook and polish him up. It make it.
Speaker 1:But, like you said, you have to have something for the machine to, because you can, let's say, not like us. Everybody want to say that it was bodied, the numbers was, but when you see them Super Bowl videos out of the world jamming to the zone you can put it out as many times as you want, but the world is clicking to the zone. You can put it out as many times as you want, but the world is clicking to that song.
Speaker 2:Those videos discredit the Casanats and all these other YouTubers and I only bring them up because that's the last video I see.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, where they was like man y'all on Gargi.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying. They like it was dead in there. You know what I'm saying. They like it was dead in there. You know what I'm saying. I'm like the videos that I was seeing, where it was dead. It was like nigga, they in the nosebleeds, they in the upper bowl, and then it's like they're not paying to see Kendrick. They're paying to see their favorite team.
Speaker 1:They there for the Super Bowl, they there for the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm saying. So when people was like man, it was dead in there, for one nigga know it wasn't. It wasn't. That bitch was going down. If you were sitting in the right spot like bro, you know for one a motherfucker going to pay for that, you going to pay that premium price. That's you know, when we talk about luxury ticket items.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Nigga, I don't even know what they call the.
Speaker 1:Super Bowl, the Super Shit, yeah, the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2:My girl man. Our birthday is like early February. She's like man baby, we got to go to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1:I'm like the ticket's at 6,000. By themselves, that's a ticket.
Speaker 2:And that's up there. I mean, if I had it, you know what?
Speaker 1:I'm saying, of course, that's a yeah.
Speaker 2:Niggas is paying. Hey, we gotta save up Four and a half months rent.
Speaker 1:Ain't nobody about to save. Well, I ain't gonna say ain't nobody, I don't wanna have to save up To go to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2:But, but who was? Who was the girl? Was it Meg? Probably Meg. I think it was Meg. She was on the carpet, FanDuel carpet. It was like who? You hear this? She was like man, I'm just here to see Kendrick. Yeah, you see what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:It was a couple of people, tyler. They asked the R&B team. They asked her like what? You who? You? I'm here to see Kendrick. I don't like that argument when they and I know we talked about the Super Bowl but people still talking about the crowd was dead in there. So I do what I do. I look at past Super Bowl performances. No artist had the and that's why you bring the crowd who want to be there. That's why you bring them to the field. That's why you put them on the field. You look in a crowd at any performance. A lot of people just back there because they not there for that they blowing it up.
Speaker 2:Bro. The halftime is intermission time, that's all it is. Damn. I've been holding this goddamn piss.
Speaker 1:But once you see all these videos that everybody posting from cruise ships, from all the ships, I can't.
Speaker 2:Are those videos valid? And then it's coming from people that really they listen, they into the music but they, they kind of already chose their size.
Speaker 1:Some of them have yeah, yeah, some of them have. So I mean, I don't want to discredit what they're doing, but what they they doing looks crazy when there's proof on the other side. Payola's real and we accept it. That ain't a lie, I mean. Depending on the number now I can't just go for everything.
Speaker 2:I mean.
Speaker 1:Hold on, Wouldn't that be crazy? Shit start popping. We come here one episode we like we ain't even really even fuck with Kendrick like that.
Speaker 2:Hey man, look. Only mixtape I really like is X-N-80s. Lie like a motherfucker for that break. Who the fuck want to listen to all that blackity, black shit? It's a white man behind the camera like that.
Speaker 1:Ain't nobody dancing to that shit? Come on, man.
Speaker 2:Let me erase that off my playlist.
Speaker 1:Show your number one views and be still kiddin'. But yeah, that's still been like the topic of the week and I have watched it.
Speaker 2:And let me say this Go ahead. I don't know if I said it last week, but I appreciated the show more so than anything. I was like bruh he gave us the concert, he gave us a show. Than anything. I was like bruh, he gave us the concert, he gave us a show. If you were not going to be able to attend a show, bruh, it might not be to you know this capacity, yeah, but what we seen was like damn, bruh, I wouldn't mind going to get a payday loan for that show. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:I wouldn't do it. But Outside of him not performing the hits, everybody thought he was going to perform. It was a good show, though, like if you take your biases and if you just step back and look at it, it's like because that's the only thing I hear from people is oh, I thought he was going to do different songs, that's why they didn't like it. But that's what you get for assuming yeah, because it's the Super Bowl. So you think at the Super Bowl everybody's supposed to, which again, samuel L Jackson is narrowing the whole point and y'all complaints is exactly the point. He's not doing the hits like we thought he would do. That's exactly what Samuel L is saying.
Speaker 2:He's not playing into that game and a lot of people just watched it like not, I had what I was going to say while you was talking, but basically, basically, it was like one of the things like you didn't come into it. Open is what I'm trying to say, exactly Most people already had a thought process of what they was going to think of oh, if he don't do this, it ain't shit type shit.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying. But if you just was like man, let me see what he's going to do and just accept it for what it was and then dissect it after Right. Most people was watching it like he going to do this. Damn, he ain't do that man. This shit lame bro.
Speaker 1:He ain't do nothing. I like he ain't do nothing.
Speaker 2:He didn't do nothing you like. Yeah, that's why the show was trash. Yeah, you see what I'm saying, but I mean that's why. That's why when dude, youtube, bon Jovi, all these motherfucking asses that done the show, madonna, well, that was a bad, because I've never seen black people, black people, we don't watch those Super Bowls. So even when you go back as a kid or just a young man, you like, bro, I used to go take a shit during halftime.
Speaker 1:During the Super Bowl halftime. That badass Rotel. Yo, yo, yo yo.
Speaker 2:Sherry man, you know what I'm saying? That type of shit. But it didn't get big until Jay-Z got into it, you until Jay-Z got into it.
Speaker 1:You see what I'm saying, because now, he know it didn't get to our culture. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It didn't get our culture until yo we didn't really give a fuck about it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean we gonna watch the big names Michael Jackson, prince, yeah, those names.
Speaker 1:You know what? I'm saying but outside of those names got no hip-hop period oh, but you, you couldn't get will smith at that moment? And then, when justin timberlake and fucking janet jackson fucked up, they blamed everything on janet jackson and then, and the white man snatched her wardrobe it was a malfunction, bitch you you snatched at it.
Speaker 1:Have you looked at that? They talk about this, this as a malfunction, but he, literally, you can see, it was a play. It was a play, of course, you know what I'm saying. But I hated it because, if they did it now, oh, I hated it because Justin Timberlake although we like Justin Timberlake he continued to keep going. But you know that's what I mean, I know, I know, I know you see Saturday Night Live. Do they little rendition of Not Like Us?
Speaker 2:That's my dude, Come on man Come on man, so they still stepping. Come on, man, but it ain't like Saturday Night Live, bro. And Drake has frequented. I can't tell it's cool. I know frequented Dude.
Speaker 1:I can't tell it's cool. I know he frequented, I know cuz. I know what you mean.
Speaker 2:Wordin' is hard.
Speaker 1:Shout out to him more.
Speaker 2:But Drake is a regular on that show. You might as well say, bro, yeah, he down there, been there many times.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's been there a couple times. He's been there a couple times.
Speaker 2:So for them to pull that they like. It's funny, it's funny.
Speaker 1:It is what it is. It is what it is. Fuck your feelings. But speaking of Drake Go ahead.
Speaker 2:What you gonna. Well, we fine though. Well, we fine, though. It ain't really nice to talk about this week has been very lackluster shit going on.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it ain't too much shit going on. Some shit did pop up and I tried to put some notes in, but it ain't really. I ain't going to make it good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we ain't going to talk about that man. You want to clean out the?
Speaker 1:refrigerator. Hey, you know what's great. That's what we just did at the refrigerator. Hey, you know what's great.
Speaker 2:That's what we just did. You see, I'm pulling from real life, but nah, after you know, running the truth back. You know, before we, I knew we was going to listen to it, I mean review it but did you listen to Party Next Door and Drake, or I should say, but did you listen to Play Next Door and Drake, or I?
Speaker 1:should say Drake, Drake, extra songs. That he said yeah bro, hey Party, what you doing this weekend? Throw some verses on that.
Speaker 2:I love the fact that he could do that. Yeah, Because the songs that he did put on there it sounded good, Like some of them sounded good. I'm not going to say it's not. This is the version of Drake that I do like.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because he can tap into it. That's why we all do like Drake because he can tap into that vulnerable bag.
Speaker 2:And I didn't do a deep dive. Like I said, I listened to it after I was running through Beanie, through my, you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, just going through his shit.
Speaker 2:Hey y'all, do y'all thing. Get out of my way.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, let me do me. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:But I made it to where's my hood. I think it's called yeah, give me a hood, yeah, give me a hood. I was like I like this guy but he doing a lot of begging right now, a lot of keep sweating the only thing is and I'm going to say that's one of my favorite songs off the album, is it?
Speaker 1:But I'm going to tell you something about how I don't know, but how we used to say about niggas that asked for a hug. No, that's what? That's some lame ass, nigga shit yeah big. Give me a hug. Where my hug at Come on, y'all, come on, everybody was deucing. I miss you. Give me a hug.
Speaker 2:No, no, you know. You know what blew my mind. When I seen the cover art Bruh, I automatically Went my mind. I don't know why. No disrespect to Pimp C, but the big pimping when he got the chin chillers and shit. I was like now come on, bro. Y'all too close With y'all faces covered In the snow. In the snow I was like what's going on? Who okayed this? Yo yo, yo yo. And you know he was like oh, this will be hot.
Speaker 2:Oh, this hot, Don't even wear no shirt under. That's crazy. Now we just going to zip in it up Like what? Hey, fam, you sure? You sure I know you dropped that Melissa Ford, but I ain't really, you know what?
Speaker 1:Again, that's my favorite song off the album. Yeah, again, that's my favorite song off the album. Yeah. But what do you think about? On one hand, drake is suing for defamation of character Cause he says Somebody says something he ain't like yeah, but on the other hand, he's still shooting at niggas on his end.
Speaker 2:I don't understand, like the logic behind it. Yeah, but I don't understand him because I don't know him, but I feel like I understand the character that is.
Speaker 1:Drake yeah.
Speaker 2:So it's like Drake, you can't do what you're suing for. I'm Drake, I can do what I want. I can do what I want. I can do what I want my dad.
Speaker 1:I just don't get it.
Speaker 2:I don't. He like the kid, he like the, he like you know in the movies and I've never seen this happen in our households, so I can only correlate to what I've seen in movies, bro. But Like this is like this, is like Drake, is like the white kid. He's like shut the fuck up, mom, this is my fucking space, you have no, just get out. Boom, close the door. But it's like when he hungry.
Speaker 1:He gotta go back, he gotta go back. Mom, you know what?
Speaker 2:I'm saying you have any tuna left? Oh my.
Speaker 1:God.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:They call me. You have any tuna left? Oh my.
Speaker 2:God yeah, eat that, all right All right With the crust.
Speaker 1:As mama said, I thought All right, All right With the crust. His mama said I thought you liked it. Oh yeah, mom, yeah, dude Come on, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, if he talking to his mama like that, bro.
Speaker 2:Just imagine the confidence he got talking to everybody else To anybody else. Except for like a couple people.
Speaker 1:A few of me ain't say nothing to. No, that's what I'm saying. Just Come on, okay.
Speaker 2:So let's just you know he dogging his daddy, bro, let's.
Speaker 1:Who, the who the fuck you, think he talking to? I don't think I bet he ain't talking to his daddy like that, you crazy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, dennis, dennis might Let it go, dennis probably talking shit bro, but Drake be like 40 and 40 be. Let it go, dennis, probably talking shit bro, but Drake be like 40? And 40 be over with that pen.
Speaker 1:I don't cross your name. It'll be over with. It'll be over with your ass. Can't walk around with them. Shiny jackets no more. The album overall is a cool. Look. Look, it's a cool little vibe. Right out of 21 songs, it's like 2. I like people gonna say I hate Drake. So it is what it is. This shit is terrible to me. It's fucking horrible cause it's boring. Oh, and I said that to somebody, because on Twitter I gotta stop talking to niggas on Twitter.
Speaker 2:Excuse me, I ain't even on Twitter.
Speaker 1:Nigga said you probably don't get no bitches.
Speaker 2:I'm married, I don't know but you probably don't own a home. I won't say it was terrible. It's a different shit you can throw out.
Speaker 1:They do. Somebody used to tell me that because it's like people tell me about Wiz Khalifa oh well, you don't smoke, so you don't like him. But it is what it is. But I won't say it's terrible, it wasn't, it wasn't. It wasn't. I just wanted you know my bag I'd bring a win.
Speaker 2:I don't smoke Music is so, so God damn bro.
Speaker 1:Do you like Curzzy? No, but I do like Curzzy. He's smart. Curzzy be snapping, though, but he rap better than it's two different styles. It definitely is, it definitely is, it definitely is. But now the Drake album, though, like I said, it's two, but you only like two songs. Let me say it's a few songs that's cool, but it's only like two or three songs that I'm like.
Speaker 2:I'll go back to those, yeah yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying. I'll go back to those.
Speaker 1:I think it's one called Deeper and then one of the early ones. It might be the.
Speaker 2:There you go CN Tower, mothball. Something About you Crying at Chanel. Spider-man, superman.
Speaker 1:Spider-Man, Superman. I like that one.
Speaker 2:Deeper Small Town. Fame Is Pit Me's Dilemma. Is that the girl, just the girl? I like that song. Yeah, braun Steele, hold on.
Speaker 1:Braun Steele, that's. That's Young Thug's lawyer. Yeah, a lawyer who fought for lyrics not to be used in court.
Speaker 2:Okay, but you get what I'm saying no, no, no, no, no, no, go ahead.
Speaker 1:But then you are suing somebody in court for their lyrics. Okay, and I know everybody going to say, well, he's not suing for the lyrics, he's suing the company because the company shouldn't put it out. But what shouldn't they put out? Which one did he drop the lyrics? He dropped a petition against UMG and Spotify for botting.
Speaker 2:Okay, so it's technically not so. The one that was still on is the defamation. The defamation, Because I man, I ain't gonna lie. After a while, I was just like I don't give a fuck.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't see how this, I don't see how that, Because you got to wait for music bro.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like that, like at that point I don't give a fuck. When it starts spilling off into like outside of what they put in the music and it starts spilling off into like personal shit, like bruhs, like you really trying to take away from my plate. Yeah, I don't really want to get into that.
Speaker 1:And that's why I hope that when Kendrick did the Game Over shit like he's really just done, yeah, no, no, no. Watch my hands with it. Of course, he's still going to perform, not Like Us.
Speaker 2:It's a huge song I have to at this point.
Speaker 1:It's the biggest song.
Speaker 2:That's damn near my thriller.
Speaker 1:But if you diss me, I'm done. Do whatever you need to do. It's over with, because now I know, if I do really go too hard, we're going to be back in this situation.
Speaker 2:There ain't no reason for that, like you said, there's no reason, there's no point. I did what I had to do. You can do all your little shit you're doing in your Australian concerts, bro Gifting these people which he on the run, he doing his thing.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:You can gift these people. And Drake, yeah, what's the word Cerebral, bro? Because he literally seen a sign that said Bigger Than Super Bowl. Didn't even mention that sign, picked out the two right beside it, but made sure everybody could see it in the jumbo. Yeah, yeah, yeah, hey, just on behalf of me and my son, give me $25,000. Now, did he give it to her, or?
Speaker 2:not who knows, but it looks good, yeah. Yeah, you see what I'm saying. Drake is the man, when it come to shit like that, to make it seem like it don't faze him, yeah.
Speaker 1:And that's why I do think overall he going to be good yeah until he start fucking talking about it in the music Until he start doing some other shit again.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's when it's just like goddamn bro, you jumped over there just to swim back. You see what I'm? Saying Like that type of shit, but that's the only thing I don't like about it. But this I just want to. All I want from here on out, from both sides, from Drake give me a better project. Yeah, just don't throw some shit together and say, hey, these are songs that I didn't put on it.
Speaker 1:Take care, scorpion, now we don't know if that's what he did, for sure.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but it sounds like it, but it sounds like it.
Speaker 1:It do sound like it.
Speaker 2:And then it just sounds like your boy is literally like get on this song, Get on this song.
Speaker 1:Get on this song. Another thing is Party Next Door. Like you hear Party Next Door, but he not really. He not in the song he not really own a lot of that shit. He's featured, yeah, but it's billed as Party Next Door and Drake.
Speaker 2:And then you hear Bruh, don't people get and I found this out through your ass Don't you get credit for me just sitting in the motherfucking booth? It's like hey, bro, you shouldn't say ho, say bitch. Some people yeah, Damn bro, he do get a little credit.
Speaker 1:It's .5.
Speaker 2:He get something.
Speaker 1:You see what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But even with that it's like bro the nigga on one song. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was like hold on bro.
Speaker 2:How was this y'all shit? Yeah, this nigga Drake sung the whole three verses the hook and the bridge, and then your boy just popped up on the end. Yeah, ooh, yeah, hold on bro.
Speaker 1:But I'm on there, though, I'm on there.
Speaker 2:You see what I'm saying. And then Drake got I by yourself this. Literally. If he put this shit together, this is probably a 17 and a half minute show.
Speaker 1:With all his verses over it without Drake, bro, go ahead, you can do your part, go ahead.
Speaker 2:Y'all remember this. What's after? Browse this me. And Plaza when, plaza at bro. Come on, what was we at Browse Steel? Browse Steel, give me a hug.
Speaker 1:That's my shit, come on. What was we at?
Speaker 2:Brian Steele. Brian Steele, give me a hug. That's my shit. These are songs I didn't get to Raining in Houston Lasers Meet your Padre. And this Mexican dude is turning his ass up On YouTube.
Speaker 1:That fucking Meet your, your pops or whatever. I can't say it right. That's why I don't choose to speak like that. That shit is terrible.
Speaker 2:I'm going to send it to you.
Speaker 1:It's a Mexican dude ripping his ass. That shit is horrible.
Speaker 2:Good God. Right after that is Nokia Diatron, somebody Loves Me, celibacy On my Way, or OMW, glorious when he's Gone. And the last song is Greedy. That's a couple of them I like. February 14th 2025 was the release. 21 songs, hour and 13 minutes. Like I said, bro of fact. Hold on One, two, three, four, five, six.
Speaker 1:Okay yeah, drake got six.
Speaker 2:He got six by himself On here bro.
Speaker 1:And then the other ones that party next door, some of the ones that party next door, own Is all Drake. Still though. Yeah, bro, this was, I think I think this was his way of saying he did it, putting shit hey, fam, you been wanting to do something, let's do it.
Speaker 2:Do you like this?
Speaker 1:song, but he also cause it's released under Sony. Or, yeah, under Sony, because it's not. It's not, it's through OVO, which is signed Through Sony, okay.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Although On the back end UMG still there. They not fully In control of. You know what I'm saying Not fully vested. Yeah, yeah, yeah so.
Speaker 2:You know, I don't give a fuck what you do, as long as I still get my 38 and a half. God, give me something. I need my percentage. What are we doing?
Speaker 1:I need my pay. You see, your boy announced Cushion OJ 2 coming out. Come on, bro.
Speaker 2:I sent you that. What's it called April 18th. I sent you that video and you was like hey, bro, what video. Come on, bro, don't do me like that. Put me on the spot.
Speaker 1:Come on, what we talking about? My bad good, go ahead, shit. Oh no, no, I do. I, like he done, put out like two or three tracks rapping over shit. I ain't mad at him.
Speaker 2:The only thing I'm scared of is that you named it the same thing, and I know projects supposed to elevate and get better?
Speaker 1:Yeah, but supposed to elevate and get better, yeah, but bro, but the way he going right now, even you know me, but you know the storyline of Cushing on Juice, bro, that bitch was seamless.
Speaker 2:You don't skip no songs unless you just want to hear a particular song. I skip a lot of songs Because you don't like shit. I didn't, I didn't. You like niggas like you don't like niggas like Larry June.
Speaker 1:I love Larry June.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because now my nigga on the green juices and shit cuz, but that's what I'm saying Now. You can relate to shit like that, though, because at one point your ass was like, hey, bro, you sitting in my motherfucking turkey and a hamburger man throw that shit away and get these almonds, that album with him.
Speaker 1:And 2 Chainz yeah, 2 Chainz can rap, but he trying to prove he can rap, yeah, instead of just being 2 Chainz, 2 Chainz, it's like he trying to.
Speaker 2:He trying to show, like he one of the ones.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying but no, it's like, bro, we don't need you to do that, because already you heard you already there of doing what you do rather than saying oh, y'all want me to rap like that, like don't over rap just don't overthink the way yeah just be cool, smoke you two chains extravagant weed you be smoking it just hey, I watched one of them things. You know where he'd be doing the food and shit. That nigga was gone. You talking about most expensive.
Speaker 2:Yeah, god.
Speaker 1:He kept on eating shit, the dude was cooking, that nigga was gone man.
Speaker 2:I love that shit. Damn. They got new episodes.
Speaker 1:I don't know if it was new. Oh, I don't watch that shit. Like yeah, I just came across it.
Speaker 2:That's why you still need it, like hey Doty man, hey, they pulled up on him.
Speaker 1:The woman pulled him to the side. They said no 2, chainz, you have to slow down. Like there's a lot in there man, I'm good Went back out there and started. Nigga was out there a little bit. He was walking behind a dude like he was lost.
Speaker 2:He was like y'all still cooking. I think I know your episode, that nigga was gone. That's why, like when people used to ask me, they'd be like Bruh, like Is you know, is it a real difference? I'd be like Nigga, yeah, or would've eaten it, nah, like, like, like, like you know, in the tickets and shit. So I'd be like, yeah, bruh, like it's a difference between a nigga paying, you know, 40 and 120. Yeah, for, for three, five. And then he's like, yeah, bro, yeah, cause you hit that, it tastes good.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Out, out of there. All right, bro, let me smoke with you. Hell, no, bro. But yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm trying to get that. I was there once upon a time. I ain't never.
Speaker 1:But it was only four or five between. And don't want to be. I'd be like man.
Speaker 2:I'd pee my man's shine money bro, I used to call him. He younger than was man. But I used to call my mans up like hey little bro, he's like goddamn bro. I can't keep serving you at my band now. I'm about to upcharge you.
Speaker 1:Hey, goddamn bro, you're already, I'm giving you up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, nothing.
Speaker 2:But yeah, man, I love that show.
Speaker 1:Mm yeah.
Speaker 2:Cushion Orange Juice. You looking forward to it. Cushion Orange Juice Is one of my favorite mixtapes. The original I know Crit Was here Was one of the best too.
Speaker 1:Crit Was. Here was nice. That's when Crit was.
Speaker 2:Crit, that was.
Speaker 1:I don't do them like that. No, no, no. And I apologize Cause I love Crit, but I feel the same. There was a time frame where it's like, oh, he about to be one of them. If y'all don't know, in the control verse that everybody shook up, kendrick actually shouted out Critt as well when he called the names that goal for Jermaine Cole. Big Critt Wiley. Pusha T Meat Mill, a$ap Rocky Drake. Big Sean Jay Electron Tyler. Big KRIT Wiley. Pusha T Meat Mill, a$ap Rocky Drake. Big Sean J Electron Tyler. Mac Miller I got love for you all, but I'm trying to murder you niggas, what KRIT come back with.
Speaker 1:That was deadly boy.
Speaker 2:What KRIT? Come back with.
Speaker 1:I don't know what KRIT do after that Mount. I forgot about that, which was a nice, but they had to change the beat when they put the that's what I'm saying?
Speaker 2:I hate that shit. That was Crick. Is that pimp still up?
Speaker 1:Nigga. I don't know, because I think if it is, it was one time where everything on that pimp was erased, where they erased a lot of the back.
Speaker 2:That's why yeah.
Speaker 1:Which all my shit is gone man quit.
Speaker 2:If you ever stumble upon this, bro, I'm not gonna be one of them. Lame. Well, I ain't gonna say lame, but I ain't gonna be one of them lame, I'm not saying it again Lame man, I guess I am Cause, bro, he got one of the hard 2000 and beyond, where he cut up dead prisoners. Bruh, oh my fucking god bruh. But when you go back to it now, it's a different and it's not clear oh my god.
Speaker 1:See, that's the problem when that's the one problem that you run into, especially when people try to put their old mixtapes on, like DSP's now, which we ran into with Wayne, where some of the either it's different beats which fuck up the whole vibe sometimes, or songs just gone.
Speaker 1:Never even make it. Yeah, on Chance the Rapper, because I, you know, we used to listen to, I used to listen to Chance and then he put out Acid Rap, one of them mixtapes but when you go to the mixtape he actually put it on DSPs. It's like two songs, it's not. It's not on DSP.
Speaker 2:Yeah, see that, and bruh. That's why I be trying to go back to my bird crib and find all of my old mixtapes. Yeah, bruh, cause it's like we'll never get them shits again, nah, and the only people that got them are the people that got them much different like on a CD versus like trying to listen to it on a DSP.
Speaker 1:anyway, right now it's too much bro.
Speaker 2:Totally different. That's why, like I'm starting, I know we becoming the old niggas now we all.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because I just hit my own year, last year, we all cuz, yeah, we all.
Speaker 2:But it's just like, bro, like when I used to hear my granddaddy and my great-granddaddy, they used to say it don't sound like the 45s, it don't sound like the vinyl.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying? They listening to tapes and shit.
Speaker 2:You say oh, we listen to tapes and CDs when they get new and they like this. Shit do not sound like the Marvin Gaye that I came up off of. It's just a different.
Speaker 1:pull that thing out, yo yo yo, yo. Now listen to this you know what I'm saying, that type of shit. And you know it's crazy, because I've been listening to the GNX album, the Kendrick Lamar album, but I just got my actual CD in, so I'm riding in the whip. I put the CD in. Bass is different, like everything just sounds so much. It's just different. It's just a different feel. So you like it better. On the.
Speaker 1:CD Hell yeah, that's why I'm back on my buying CDs now. Even though I don't really fuck with the Drake album that much. I just seen that he put actual CDs on sale.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna grab one. I told my old lady I was like man, you can go ahead and refund that shit because I was not waiting. I don't want that shit at Christmas For the Kendrick Lamar shit.
Speaker 1:That's the only thing, because they for a lot of people that's doing CDs and shit, it's like a pre-order. And then the pre-order we pre-ordered before Christmas, we just I'm just now getting a motherfucking CD. I'm like bro, what?
Speaker 2:the fuck, because I ain't gonna bro, like when I go and clean them up, that's when at my vinyl I'm like shit, everybody gone.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because you know vinyl only holds like maybe six songs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then you gotta flip that bitch. You gotta flip that motherfucker over.
Speaker 2:You see what I'm saying, but it I just enjoy, like, especially when you smoking, bro, you just chilling, laying back. You can just put that, motherfucker.
Speaker 1:Just let it go. Goddamn that shit sound good.
Speaker 2:Yo Shut the just let it go. Damn that shit sound good. Yo shut the fuck up. You know what I'm saying. Niggas, run up top of your head and sit, bruh need a smoker's coat. You know what I'm saying I love the the CD sound did he do an old school like the, the pamphlet and everything whole?
Speaker 1:booklet and everything. I didn't like that with Tyler, because on Tyler it just literally a slide in. It's a vinyl, but it's a CD. You know what? I'm saying he didn't put nothing to it. The Kendrick, though booklet produced everything.
Speaker 2:That's why I love Killer Mike's vinyl bro. I can't put them up. I got a baby girl, but he got that the visuals that he put in, that the slip covers and shit boy.
Speaker 1:But you know, outkast and them was good for that back in the day.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, yeah, bro man, they was beautiful at that shit yeah yeah, yeah, and I, you know I didn't learn it until you know, we was in high school, but Entree was doing all the artwork on the CDs.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, you gotta work with that moment you hear a noise, make sure you good.
Speaker 2:Let's go Go through that bookcase like it.
Speaker 1:Nigga retarded boy. Hey, speaking of Alcatraz, you hear Eric Abadu got a new little album on the way. I heard a snippet of something Her and Alcman Shout out to Al. He is on the run right now.
Speaker 2:That voice is just.
Speaker 1:It's Eric.
Speaker 2:Do what I want to hear, eric. I don't want to hear the effect on her voice.
Speaker 1:I understand that it remind me of. But this is a snippet online. Them in the studio. It could sound totally different once this F is actually dropped. You know what I'm saying, but I didn't know if you had heard it or not.
Speaker 2:I seen the video because it was looking all weird. I was like you making stuff weird for me. It's like just give me what you're trying to show me Right, right.
Speaker 1:Well, you know everybody. Now they're trying to be artsy.
Speaker 2:You know what we're missing? Mystique. Everybody can't don't need to be all that, just put the shit out.
Speaker 1:If you're going to put the shit out, you see, jay-z's lawsuit got dropped well with prejudice, so that means no one can file again, which we kind of knew it was going to there can only be one once that story started falling apart.
Speaker 1:it was falling apart Like, yeah, If I didn't know, now is the time for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, the nominees. Usually I didn't even know you could vote or if they had fan voting in the past. But just because OutKast is part of the nominees, I wanted to put in the vote. But I did want to read through who they do have.
Speaker 2:Don't you want to Dave? I don't know I just voted Because I did it when you guys sent me the link. Yeah, I voted that time and I ain't even went back to it and I got the thing.
Speaker 1:I was like damn ain't nobody else, they got Soundgarden, which is a rock band from the 90s. They got the Black Crow, Bad Company, Mana Mariah Carey, which should be Joe Cocker.
Speaker 2:Cindy Lopper, which definitely should be.
Speaker 1:I would have thought she would have been there. Exactly Oasis, Exactly Oasis. Fish Fish is at Bonnaroo every year.
Speaker 2:Who are they? They like one of them Dutch bands, something like that I ain't never even go to their stage.
Speaker 1:I ain't even seen them one time. I would have thought Billy Idol was there too. Billy Idol is on here, the White Stripes which I mean. Before you even go. Is that who? I think it was in it too. Billy Idol is on here, the White Stripes which I mean.
Speaker 2:Before you even go. Is that who? I think it is Okay, nah.
Speaker 1:Chubby Checker, Joy Division and the New Order which Chubby Checker should.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's crazy. What are we doing?
Speaker 1:And then OutKast. Now that.
Speaker 2:I'm saying Chubby Checker, is your boy in there?
Speaker 1:Who Chuck?
Speaker 2:Berry.
Speaker 1:That I don't know. That I don't know. But if y'all are interested, y'all can go to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and vote for who you just saying, berry, yeah, they had a brain for it. I got lost. Got in in 1986, fam, don't make no sense.
Speaker 2:Lil Richard in 86 that class is crazy insane. You hear me Lil.
Speaker 1:Richard.
Speaker 2:Jerry Lee Lewis. Oh, he came a year after. He came a year after.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he came a year after. These are the people that's in 96, though. Billy Joel, jerry Lee Lewis, keith Richards, neil Young, steve.
Speaker 2:Winwood. I don't know who that is.
Speaker 1:I don't know who that is. But yeah, so I do. I mean congratulations to everybody who is, you know, in the nominees for 2025 um so what does it take for you to get in the hall of fame like?
Speaker 1:I mean they got their own and then people to vote on I guess so, but then I think, like I said, I don't know how long they've been having where fans can vote, but I know they have their own. I wonder if it's like, because once you get a Grammy you're able to vote for the Grammys. So I wonder if it's like once you are in the Hall of Fame. I didn't know that. Yeah, like once you win a Grammy, you can now vote on the Grammys. I think, out of all the categories, you get to pick out of 11 categories during the Grammys.
Speaker 2:Is it one Grammy per vote, or you just?
Speaker 1:What you mean.
Speaker 2:So if I get 15 Grammys, do I get 15 votes?
Speaker 1:No now you just can vote.
Speaker 2:That's like the government who Bitch I got 48 votes. Ain't nobody winning this shit?
Speaker 1:Dodie again. So that's how that do, but I don't know if the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. I'm pretty sure they got their group. You know they select the people who do vote.
Speaker 2:But then I voted for Alcatraz, so I mean, that's how your boy from Joe Bunn podcast be getting the vote yeah.
Speaker 1:So I guess it's not even when you win one, it's when you nominated, because he's been nominated, but I don't think he's won.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but he has been nominated a couple of times. That's kind of Because there's a lot of people that get nominated, but you can only vote for 11 categories. Yeah, I do remember him. Yeah, that's where I heard it from. So if I'm a rapper, I don't want. I'm only going to vote In these categories I know about. I ain't going to give a fuck about all of them, I don't know the fuck fish is.
Speaker 1:I ain't going to give a fuck about none of that shit. You know what I'm saying. So I voted for OutKast, of course, because it's OutKast, it's Big Boy, it's Andre 3000.
Speaker 2:It's Dungeon Family, yeah because if they get in, everybody in what? Because that's just the family dynamic. That's why I love OutKast man. They might go through their turmoil, but it's like bitch y'all don't know about it, Because that's family though. No, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, we a family down there. And then when I found out Rico Wade didn't take everything that he could have and was giving them their music. They own their music. Y'all can sell it if y'all want to type shit, I thought that was even more.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but that's how you, you can build. See that the thing, especially in America, anyway the greed can take over. So, motherfuckers, just, you put your name on something. I'm taking everything. You know what I'm saying. But if you look at it, for the long haul, if we just do this together, we still going to be straight. You know what I'm saying. You going to be good, I'm going to be good. You know what I mean. Shout out to Joe Budden that's what he said, him and his Ian. Ian is his manager and that's how they got it. They kind of just like ain't no contracts, ain't no, we just it's how we rock. You know what I'm saying. Ain't too many people you can do that with.
Speaker 2:But you know what I'm saying. So, but If you can, though that's what's up, though you don't need much to live like a king, nah, but that's not the thought process.
Speaker 1:That's how I mean shout out to Jay for getting his shit dropped, but that's how niggas around him got fucked up Because Jay want to be Jay, rather than you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:No, he ain't the OG gangster. Yes, I is.
Speaker 1:Nigga, don't test us kid. Speaking of Jay and his people, we are here to review Beanie Siegel's album the Truth. This is his debut album of him being signed to Rockefeller. This was released in February of 2000. Producers is Kanye West, just Blaze Rock, wilder Buck, wilde Bink, sam Snead, a bunch of people. It's a bunch of people Rock Wilder.
Speaker 2:that's the same one. I don't think you know who Esso is, but he the same one that did Method man and Red man yeah, the Rock Wilder track.
Speaker 1:Yeah, cause I never.
Speaker 2:I never knew what that meant the what the name of it? Yeah, yeah, yeah, ain't seen that one fucking dog ain't no dog in it.
Speaker 1:Y'all don't talk about a dog. This, this album, ain't seen not one fucking dog in here. Ain't no dog in here. Y'all don't talk about our dog. Two, joe Niggas in the verses. This album dropped in 2000. Peaked at number five on the Billboard Top 200. Number two on the R&B and hip-hop album. Which shit amazing. The singles from it was the truth and remember them days. It only went gold, which back then I only want to say only I want to take that away. It went gold. It went gold because before digital, I know everybody live off of selling a million. Right now, selling 500 was. If you sell 500 copies right now, overall you'll be looked at as like, oh nigga, you ain't even doing nothing. But if you Right now, yeah, I'm not talking about in a week, I'm talking about overall, because this album is-.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, no, no, no. I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1:I know we always talk about the numbers, bro, that's why, when you said like 500, I'm like nigga, are you talking about like? Over time or like in I'm talking about over time.
Speaker 2:I'm talking about over time. How much time, though?
Speaker 1:I don't know, in these times, like in these times, in these times, you probably won't get 500 unless you no, that's why I said it One of the big dogs, if you say that in these times?
Speaker 2:I don't think so. If a nigga hear hard sales 500,000 hard sales, oh hard sales.
Speaker 1:that's, totally different.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, hell yeah Everybody can do that in the street.
Speaker 1:Speaking of sales, we're going to get to the album this week, four months after Gen X came out. The nigga is selling 270 this week.
Speaker 2:Like overall.
Speaker 1:Yeah, 160 is hard sales this week. Good God.
Speaker 2:If I find that motherfucker, I ain't shopping at Walmart or Target right now. I'm going to fuck with Tam Brown. I love Tam Brown, but I don't look.
Speaker 1:But back to the truth Again, it did look.
Speaker 2:I ain't. But back to the truth.
Speaker 1:Again, it did sell, it went. I'm sorry, no disrespect. It did go gold. It got featured from Memphis Bleak, jay-z, emile Eve Scarface, and then, for some reason, jay-z got his own song at the end.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because I was like bro wasn't anything on Hard Knock.
Speaker 1:Life. No, it wasn't on Hard Knock Life, it was on. Was it on Volume? It was on something else, but it was premiered on Because I was like what the fuck is he? He got his own song at the end of hey see if this work on Bean's album. Yeah, throw it at the end. Throw it at the end. It has nothing to do with anything but.
Speaker 2:I don't give a fuck Put it on the end. I'm footing the bill and it got Dame Dash signature right there.
Speaker 1:Again, the singles from this album was the True and then Remember them Days. Remember them Days was a song with Eve on it. Because they're both from Philly, I didn't really care much for that song. I could have done without that. As far as the songs that really stand out, go ahead. I thought you were about to say something. Go ahead, no, no, no no, finish what you're saying.
Speaker 1:What your Life Like has to be one of the greatest rap songs to ever be made. Like, just to speak, the way he's speaking. I don't even know if he ever been to jail, but it sounds ruthless.
Speaker 2:When I was listening to that I was like, oh yeah, maybe he ain't a rapper, maybe he really is Maybe he really about that shit. Yeah, I was like, because you know, like when you look back on like YouTube and you looking at the videos where I was, I was like damn man. I just want to get the nostalgia feeling Because I remember when we was watching State Props Paper Soldiers all that.
Speaker 2:Like Beans, never gave the impression like he was a cool, calm, collected guy, not once. And when I was listening to this I was like he's never been calm, cool and collected.
Speaker 1:Because Matt man Bruh Bruh To even have that concept with that shit is crazy.
Speaker 2:I said, man, why the? I need to see how he grew up for real bro Cause it's like let's talk about this. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah For you to just correlate yourself to being a fucking Mac 90, mac 10, mac, whatever, bro, and then you just really saying like I'm going to take whatever the fuck I ain't got and I'm going to take whatever I want.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:The whole time, even when you was trying to get like sentimental, it was like man, I miss my friend. But, bitch, I take your lunch again.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, and I'm like golly yeah.
Speaker 2:But when I was listening to this, I always thought the second album was the first album.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Because that's the beans that.
Speaker 1:I'm on that. You got to, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:You see what I'm saying. Come on now. No, he ain't the OG, that's how he is man. I like the beans man, but B you can tell the growth light from the truth Because he. Come on, bro. It ain't no intro, it's just straight into the hard shit. Hey, nigga with the money, you know what I'm saying? That type of shit, bro.
Speaker 2:I enjoy this, bro, and I understand why people say, bro, like I've never been huge on up north rap outside of like Rocky and KRS, because that's what my daddy grew up on, so I would listen to that shit, because that's what my daddy grew up on. That's what you had, yeah, but going back to this, I was like, yeah, bro, I see what my motherfucker be talking about. He was holding it his own, or Eclipse and Jay and Versus, because he didn't do nothing.
Speaker 1:But get better and better bro.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, and if he don't stay on this wild shit throughout his career and don't get locked up?
Speaker 1:and come back to nothing.
Speaker 2:Because I honestly feel like, even with the way this nigga was moving and how the rock was set up, bro, if he didn't go to jail and he was just still rapping bro and amidst the turmoil, he still would have found a way to be that nigga, still bro, even for a year or two longer.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Because when he got out it was just like bro, you so lost in the road I'm about to say.
Speaker 1:he was just gone for a minute, so it's just different now.
Speaker 2:And then everything changes Like hold on bro. Now you wearing suits and shit. Yeah, like what the fuck? Yeah, bro, now you wearing suits and shit Like what the fuck, like you not fucking with the home team? Like and nigga you still on the same shit? You see what I'm saying. It was like, bro, why the fuck you didn't take this and mix this? You know what I'm saying. And then now just to see him like have another chance with the AI shit To bring something else. Yeah, bro.
Speaker 1:Because I can still give you my. I could still give you what I'm going through. I can give you my feelings. I just didn't have the voice. Yeah, now, if I can bring that voice back. We back on listening to this and you kind of touched on it, paul. But like he's better than Jay at times, like I know a lot of people, they they was arguing like did Beans keep up with him? Or there's times he outshined Jay. Like Beans is an aggressive lyrical Go ahead.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry bro Because what's the name? Is it On the Run with Jay-Z and Beyonce? With Beyonce, yeah, have you actually listened to that verse?
Speaker 1:I mean, I ain't listened to it in a while.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm talking about right, yeah. Niggas talk about motherfuckers, be like rapping, like Melly Mel bro, have you listened to that song? Boy loves girl, girl loves me.
Speaker 1:But see, and that's why I to that song boy loves girl, girl loves me. But see, and that's why I hate that song, Forever Young, the way he rap on that fucking Forever Young song.
Speaker 2:You just. I like versions of these people, bro. I don't know, these people. But like I only like the version of Jay when he talking. I don't know if he live that life or not, but he makes the shit sound good when he talking in street talk like that dope talk.
Speaker 1:With that, 92 bricks and shit.
Speaker 2:Come on, bro, what you talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But when he be like girl loves boy, boy loves girl, I be like, hey, bro, this shit, hey, leave it to your wife. This one didn't need you. Yeah, and you can curse me bro.
Speaker 1:We'll never make it big again.
Speaker 2:Come on, bro, but I'm still going to voice my opinion.
Speaker 1:Yeah, one song I did like a lot, well, two. I mean, I like a lot of songs on this, but hearing Memphis Bleak and Benny Siegel do a back and forth, Go ahead, fucking crazy. But did he write that verse? I don't know who wrote it. They say Jay wrote all this shit.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm saying. That's why I brought it up.
Speaker 1:It sounds good, bleak brought up a good voice, but it's already over with, it's done. Hey, yo Bleak Hearing him go back and forth and then hearing him go back and forth with Scarface that shit.
Speaker 2:I don't think. I don't think Niggas love to talk about how old school niggas can't rap To this day, bro, because I didn't. Scarface didn't grow on me until later on, bro, when I got into high school bro.
Speaker 1:What you mean by that.
Speaker 2:My daddy listened to the nigga but I was like I don't really like moms playing tricks on me.
Speaker 1:Dude, you ain't never listened to good old boys, or shit.
Speaker 2:Come on, bro. When I was in high school, my block came out. You say you won't, because I can say the same shit about the movies. You miss it. But that's not what we're here talking about.
Speaker 1:That's not what we're here talking about.
Speaker 2:I said back in the day I knew Smile, I wasn't one of the niggas that go and grab a Brad Jordan album.
Speaker 1:Brad Jordan's voice is so angelic.
Speaker 2:Come on.
Speaker 1:I ain't say nothing about it, I'm just saying when he rap his stories too, you just go there. There was always people.
Speaker 2:you older than me as well. I'm like two years older than you, nigga, you had a big brother. I didn't have a big brother. My big brother was my uncle, and that nigga was not into music. He was in ROTC. He was trying to fly helicopters bro.
Speaker 1:Shout out to that nigga.
Speaker 2:That nigga like. I go to a high school. My uncle went to a high school where Backstreet and NSYNC was the thing.
Speaker 1:I mean they had some hits. I'm just telling you what environment he was in, right, I mean there's some hits. I'm just telling you what environment, what it was.
Speaker 2:Right right, right, right right. So if I'm pulling up, listen, hey, man, cut this shit off.
Speaker 1:Oh, also listen to this album. I'm glad Emil didn't really like Take off. Why you say that Emil was terrible?
Speaker 2:I ain't gonna argue, bro. Come on, bro, like that was harsh, couldn't do better.
Speaker 1:Apologize. Couldn't do better. I'm gonna tell you the songs that stood out, though. What's your Life? Like Mack and Brad, which is the one with Scarface?
Speaker 2:Remember them days.
Speaker 1:Remember them days is terrible. It's terrible. No, it didn't stunt.
Speaker 2:Yes, it is Cause it did not fit the album. It did not.
Speaker 1:It's like they try to go happy and shit, but like that's what I said, why are you?
Speaker 2:here. And then what killed me was I was like okay, I just said, I only knew the singles I heard.
Speaker 1:The next album I was like that's the one you thought was yo yo, yo, yo yo yeah fuck this shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying, that's what I'm saying. But when I heard it I said, oh no.
Speaker 1:He thought he needed this. He thought he needed it. It was a single, it was a happy.
Speaker 2:What did? What did? I didn't like it from both of them. Yeah, it's like I don't give a damn about the good times in your life.
Speaker 1:Not when the rest of the album is talking about the bad times in your life. You when the rest of the album is talking about the bad times in your life.
Speaker 2:You just told me you a murderer, nigga, because he murdered your home girl. I don't care about you buying bubble gum and double dutching. Tell me more. I've got the knife slinging.
Speaker 1:Talk about that. How was it being in jail? Come on, bro.
Speaker 2:Did you really sell your commissary, come? On, bro, did you really sell your commissary, come?
Speaker 1:on bro, the Mac man song, which is a whole scheme. First of all the beat is like Pac-Man sample and then he go through these whole schemes of really still talking through life shit, but putting game titles and character names in through it.
Speaker 2:That shit is wild man. It reminded me of you ever heard of 187 Proof by Spice One. Shit is wild man. It reminded me of you ever heard of 187 Proof by Spice One.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm, yeah, that's what it reminded me of yeah, mm-hmm, and then Raw and Uncut. I mean it got Jay-Z on it, it's cool.
Speaker 2:I can say this, bro Listening to it, I understand why they did it Well. I understand why they did it Well, I felt like I understood why they did it. I felt like this was his first album and they was trying to do what Diddy was trying to do with Biggie Put him on everybody's shit to make them hot. Yeah, you did Pop him off and I was like you really didn't need it.
Speaker 1:No, he didn't need it At all Beans did not. He didn't need it.
Speaker 2:You really didn't need it.
Speaker 1:No, he didn't need it At all.
Speaker 2:Beans did not, he didn't need it.
Speaker 1:And I guess Bing's character behind the scene kind of slowed him down because he did go through some shit, but yes, a lot of he could have carried this out. I mean, you didn't need three J features, it's only two J features. And then that anything song, life is anything.
Speaker 2:That's Oliver and Company. That's a good movie, it's a musical.
Speaker 1:I've never seen it. Lisa, is that where that's from? I know that scene, but I know it from Family Guy. That's it, yeah. Overall, though, what do you think about this album?
Speaker 2:We go out of five right.
Speaker 1:We go out of five. Right, we go out of five.
Speaker 2:I gave it a three. I give it a 4.5. I gave it a three.
Speaker 1:I could listen to this shit and I have been listening to it.
Speaker 2:That shit, nigga that aggressive hard but that's also your what's called too, though what that's your, that's your rapper characteristics, bro. Yeah, like your moves on Def Jam Bendetta Aggression All the way up 10.5. It only go to 10. For some reason, he got an extra five.
Speaker 1:I like that shit. I like that. I'm telling you once it start off with the truth. The first song, it's like it, just okay, we good. I give it a 4.5 out of 5. I gave it a 3. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Just because the Eve song, I felt like it was too many Jay verses. I felt like Jay was literally just trying to like man this nigga too good bro, I got to insert myself.
Speaker 1:I feel like that on some of the shit and then this is just my thought process, it has nothing to do with nothing else. But I also feel like that's why, jay, when they was in court and they was like you ain't going to take, and Jay's like nah, you know, he got to handle his own Because some people can fuck he probably wouldn't have got as big as in my brain I think he could have got, but he could have slowed down some momentum from some other shit.
Speaker 2:Bro Jay is calculated by now. Everybody knows yeah, of course, of course he did that to his own bro. I give it a 4.5 out of 5. Look what he did to DMX. He told that man Prisoners running the yard B Did that man just like this yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, crazy how some niggas act when they, you know, threatened at times Back against the wall. Ashy knuckles, nah man. So so that was the Beanie Siegel, though I give it a 4.5 Out of5. My brother give it a 3. Yeah, I gave it a 3, bro. I'm gonna do the next one, though. Oh yeah, what we got next week, though. Five out of five. My brother give it a three. Yeah, I gave it a three, bro. I'm going to do the next one, though. Oh yeah, what we got next week, though I don't know.
Speaker 1:My nigga said you talk about your life. Is this your life? Is that? Your life ain't shit bitch, your life is whack. You listen to the realest nigga. Close your eyes, motherfucker, Tell me you don't feel this, nigga the illest nigga Go ahead.
Speaker 2:Alright, we gotta go back to my mans bro.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what we listening to. We on the big crit Crit Shout out to crit Down south legend in our eyes.
Speaker 2:Did you listen to Digital Roses? No, exactly.
Speaker 1:So we're going digital. Was it Digital?
Speaker 2:Roses, mm-hmm. You know what? No, we not going to hear the original Critless.
Speaker 1:Nah.
Speaker 2:Return. We not going to hear that you don't hear.
Speaker 1:It's a return of forever.
Speaker 2:I mean Crit. I wanna, I wanna review a Crit album. So bad bro let's go, let's do, let's do a Crit album we not gonna get the, we not gonna do it justice, bro, cause. But you know what?
Speaker 1:yeah, uh, you're not going to do it justice, bro, because he misses his shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't have an album. What's another album? Come on cuz.
Speaker 1:I don't have one, bro. Listen to the illest nigga.
Speaker 2:Hey Peaches what do you say hey, player this, peaches, come to you, give me your big what's up.
Speaker 1:Let's listen to Don Tripp Christopher Season 4. Don Tripp If y'all don't know, Don Tripp is from Tennessee. He has been putting out An album every month For the last two years and he just released another one. But we're going to go back to one that he dropped at the end of last year. It's Christopher Season 4. This nigga Tyler would be crazy. From Don Tripp.
Speaker 1:This Tyler would be crazy and that's what we on Shout out to my sister. Me and my sister have, I mean, I got a lot of brothers and sisters and we all been around each other, but me and my sister have kind of done clicked up on some shit.
Speaker 2:You know what.
Speaker 1:I mean, we've been sending each other like TikToks and videos and shit like that, and she loved Don Tripp. You know what I'm saying. Just the one I know? No, I don't think you know. Nah, nah, nah nah nah, nah, that's your cousin, man. Nah, that's my sister, nah. Yeah that's my sister too, shout out to that color.
Speaker 1:But I never like my family. Like we all love music but we all on a different spectrum of what we listen to. I like Don Tripp because the shit that he talk about he don't give a fuck who he like. If he going to talk about the family, he going to talk about the family. He don't give a fuck about holding back.
Speaker 2:You did steal them, hot dogs.
Speaker 1:It happened, you know what I'm saying and I tell my sister that I used to want to do that, but I always would hold myself back on shit because I used to want to do that, but I always would hold myself back on shit because I ain't want Piss nobody out. Yeah, I ain't really want to piss nobody off. Amen. My nigga Tripp, though, nigga fuck, this happened and it happened and you knew it happened.
Speaker 2:What Marlon say. It's my lovely family. Put the light on them and make it hot.
Speaker 1:Went down the line on them. Niggas Make it hot time. So, yeah, that's what we're going to do. Don Tripp, christopher, season four. That's what we on next week. All right, cool, yeah, man, what else? Anything we good? Oh, we got to talk about next week. What you know, I got that coming up, oh yeah yeah, yeah, I should be able.
Speaker 2:Are y'all out to hear more?
Speaker 1:Zooming with the homies man, as a matter of fact. No, that's the. We'll talk about it, but we'll be back, we'll be good.
Speaker 2:Y'all hear from us. Y'all might just get some audio. Only Y'all might get a few audio onlys we ain't trying to put my man's business out there, but we might be going through a little transition, Mm-hmm. So you know, not that type of transition, but a good transition. You know, not transition from this to that.
Speaker 1:I don't know. You know, Like, how is it over there guys? Nah, don't do that Huh.
Speaker 2:Don't do that. What do you mean? I'm going to be like is it, Is it?
Speaker 1:I'll be like ever since this happened, he ain't been really talking to me. The same that's your new name man Regina Smith man. Oh, hey, we out man the barber, thank you for listening to another episode of Late to the Party with Doty and Reggie. I'm Reggie, I'm Doty, that's Doty. Hey, hey, we hollering Peace out.