Late To The Party w/ Dody and Reggie

Life Be Lifing

Dody and Reggie Episode 41

We reflect on mortality as we watch people our age pass away from health issues rather than street violence. This stark realization forces us to consider our own health habits and preventative measures as we approach our 40s.

• LeBron James reaching 50,000 career points and why his achievements stand regardless of GOAT debates
• The confrontation between LeBron and Stephen A. Smith over comments about Bronny
• Spring break revelations and the challenges of balancing work with family time
• Playboy Carti's new album as "rage music" designed specifically for live performances and mosh pits
• The ethics of separating art from controversial artists like R. Kelly
• Drake's UMG lawsuit and why established artists might consider going independent
• Reviewing Camp Lo's 1997 debut album "Uptown Saturday Night" and its place in hip-hop history

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Speaker 2:

I got it, but I got it. You got something in your teeth too, girl. Look, I'm going to cut it out. Dog, that ain't doing you good now it's gone. Now you had a little piece of chicken. It was up front, all right Yo.

Speaker 1:

When the tension was kicking in, I'd be.

Speaker 2:

Look at us Back again, back again, back again. That's a long applause. Yo, welcome to another episode.

Speaker 1:

That's right. What was your girl? Ricky Lake? That was a Ricky Lake.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, bro because that was a lot of Ricky Lake, ricky late. Welcome to another episode of late to the party with Dodie and Reggie. I am Reggie, dodie and yes, we are late to the party.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, finally back.

Speaker 2:

We back. It's been a busy two weeks for both of us, so, but we are here now and I want to just start with a little.

Speaker 3:

He hasn't been very good. The broad, the broad, the broad, the broad, the broad, the broad the broad, the broad, the broad, the broad.

Speaker 2:

Hey Boy, this shit is beautiful. Who went to the?

Speaker 3:

studio.

Speaker 2:

And said, hey, I got an idea cuz Huh, yeah. Yeah, deal cuz huh yeah yeah. I heard that's out. This shit. It's a nice little. It's a few of them going around. It's like a challenge. Now. Everybody want to show how much they love LeBron right now. 50,000 plus points.

Speaker 1:

Been that dude for a minute, for a long time, for a minute.

Speaker 2:

Even though nobody wants to, he don't even have to be. Let's say he's not better than Jordan. Let's say he's not better than Jordan. He's still LeBron James.

Speaker 1:

He's still LeBron James. 50,000 points is crazy.

Speaker 2:

But they say, you know, since he played so long he's supposed to get those points. But it don't matter, nobody else done it. Other players have played For 20 years.

Speaker 1:

Vince Carter ain't nowhere near.

Speaker 2:

Not close so.

Speaker 1:

He went from a dunker To a three point shooter. Like I, can't get Well after a while.

Speaker 2:

You can't get up there no more, so you got to change the way you play. What can I do? Yeah, learn this fadeaway real quick. So what's been going on, man, since we've been Shit? We took some time off.

Speaker 1:

I know I say it every week or every other week Life.

Speaker 2:

Life be lifin'. You got to learn how to deal with shit. Roll with the punches.

Speaker 1:

And you know what, Speaking of basketball, like all the niggas that we grew up with are getting up in age.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

And in life, all the people we grew up with are getting up in age, yeah. And it's crazy because I hate to bring it down, but you know, like niggas, we went to school with bro be, falling like flies.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

So now you're like, damn, am I drinking enough water? Yeah, yeah, yeah, and really start thinking about shit, Did I do enough? Yeah?

Speaker 2:

So when you're young and you see your mama and your granny and they thinking about that like they start seeing, you know everybody around is disappearing and you in a young mind state so you ain't thinking about it. I'm about to be 40.

Speaker 1:

I'm about to go to bro house right now.

Speaker 2:

So I'm hitting 40,. You know I got some time before 40, but we getting there. So you start, you know, like you said, you start seeing people disappearing and shit. It's like damn. You know what I'm saying, especially when it's which is, which is. It is what it is. You see a nigga Hit by a car, killed, blah, blah, blah. It's kind of like. That's not an age thing, though. So when you start Seeing people your age Passing away, due to like Like having strokes and heart attacks and stuff like that.

Speaker 2:

That's when it starts Getting a little like Damn.

Speaker 1:

We was in a lifetime Of wellness together, you know what I? We had plans, nigga yeah man, that's been having a lot, bro. I went into my unk year. I entered the unk stage this year. So it was like shit, shit getting real.

Speaker 2:

It's being real but these ain't the streets.

Speaker 1:

They say that Exactly, this ain't shit. You gotta be, you know you ain't worried about nobody.

Speaker 2:

They say that. They say that yeah, exactly. You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, exactly this ain't shit, you gotta be. You know you ain't worried about nobody else, you gotta worry about yourself at this point, you're like god damn, like I said am I drinking no water? Do I gotta get on an aspirin regimen? You know what I'm saying. It is like you checking for your wallet and your keys.

Speaker 2:

Like do I need to get that? Yeah, you need that. No, I'm good. Okay, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

Like yeah, but yeah, bro, you gotta, hey, man, check on yourself and check on your people. Man, yeah, you know, but that was all that. Everything been cool. Man, it's spring break.

Speaker 2:

Kids out of school.

Speaker 1:

You got older kids.

Speaker 2:

I got older kids.

Speaker 1:

They hit the door as soon as they get home.

Speaker 2:

I don't even know where they are right now. That's what.

Speaker 1:

I'm saying I leave before my babies go to school, so when I come home that's usually my break in between gigs and shit, but nigga. Today're firing on a Monday.

Speaker 2:

We usually record on Sunday.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. I got home I said oh yeah, we're firing today. Hey cuz my baby girl woke up. She said daddy, we got bacon, hold on.

Speaker 2:

Yo, yo, yo, yo yo.

Speaker 1:

What are you doing here? First of all, I said no. Instantly told her brother hey, man, make sure she eat, I'll be, back.

Speaker 2:

I'll be back.

Speaker 1:

That's the benefit of having older kids. But, bro, hey.

Speaker 2:

Mine 1917,. Mine is like adults.

Speaker 1:

You know what I hate? It's like kids and we probably did it too Not me, because I knew the situation but niggas, spring break. Kids think you supposed to be out when they out? Oh yeah, yeah, I get what you mean what we doing.

Speaker 2:

I'm going to work.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, even if I didn't, motherfucker chores.

Speaker 2:

Clean up some spring clean clean up some. I had my. That's what mine been doing. Mine been trying to get this house together. But you know, sometimes you just I've been out of work for three weeks. I'm finally get to go back to work.

Speaker 1:

I miss it yeah, I'm gonna say that you probably hitting that point where it's like, ah damn.

Speaker 2:

Hitting that point, nigga. One week I was like look, real talk.

Speaker 1:

But you make your own money, so it's hard to just see it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, because when you not there, there's no paid time off, there's no emergency days.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so you're a barber At that point. That's when being an owner Is essential, Cause you can. You can take off and you can Steal back on that.

Speaker 2:

No, it's definitely good. You know what I'm saying, because when shit happens, it's like Look, I gotta go, I gotta handle business, but you're not making nothing, but you can Take care of shit that you need to take care of. You know what I'm saying, so that is a good thing. Can you still hear me? Man with the mic in here, I just feel like I'm Well sometimes. You got to Nah Pause, hey yo.

Speaker 1:

Y'all men's going to go crazy. Hey man, that nigga two-handed Pause.

Speaker 2:

Damn, I don't even want to touch them over there. Sometimes you got to be up close, though, you feel me. My man said man, get up, we do got better mics now, but you can't be. You know what I'm saying, especially the way you talk all soft and shit. Hey man, you got to be up on that, motherfucker. Make sure they can hear. There's some ASMR videos.

Speaker 1:

Hey what they say. Hey man, that's your mic now. That's all you got. You ain't got none of them. Mouth all up tongue kissing.

Speaker 2:

Before we get too carried away, because that's what we will do. We started with LeBron and we missed it last week. Yeah, so LeBron, stephen A Smith, stephen A Smith approach now. The crazy thing is I've learned more since it happened originally. Yeah, so it's like my mind is different now. I know how it was, but Stephen A Smith stepped or LeBron stepped up to Stephen A Smith on the court about talking about his son in basketball and shit.

Speaker 3:

You know what?

Speaker 2:

I'm saying so what was your thoughts on that approach?

Speaker 1:

For LeBron to be in the league. This long man, he know how it go. If anything, if I'm going to approach you, like Stephen A said, you or Rich got the number you could have reached out to me, but you know, as a father, I ain't trying to call you, I got to see you when I see you. What I would have liked to see or not have seen. I'd rather him did it behind the scenes.

Speaker 2:

Instead of being on court. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and we heard about it, you see what I'm saying Now.

Speaker 1:

if Stephen A took that out of context, then okay, cool. Now let's hear it from LeBron you know what I'm saying Maybe like some KD shit, like tweet, something like hey bro, that ain't what we're saying with face-to-face type shit. I mean, it is what it is man Like he a dad, first and foremost. You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

But at the same time you got to understand, like bro, if he's going to be in this league.

Speaker 1:

He's got to face the truth. He's going to get ridiculed. Yeah, he is. Be in his league, he's got. He's gonna get ridiculed. Yeah, yeah. And then, uh, I don't know if you watch, um, I can't think of uh, the name right now, but uh, I think it's. Uh, is it neuro?

Speaker 2:

these are some mirror oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah their podcast.

Speaker 1:

D-way was on there. He was like man d-way said it like you put that target on Barney's back, which he did, so you got to take what comes with it. Now he's been doing his thing in the G League.

Speaker 2:

He's been showing out in the G League like looking good.

Speaker 1:

When he does get his chances. Now, I mean, he does his thing. We got to take that into consideration. He's a rookie. Second round 55th.

Speaker 2:

I was about to say 55th pick. It ain't like he was top tier pick either. Come on bro, my thought on it was fam, your kid is in the league. It is what it is, but what I have allegedly learned, or what I have learned, the words got. That's a hard word for Elmo.

Speaker 1:

Why would you say it before? I picture that motherfucking poopy bro.

Speaker 2:

But no, what I have learned since then is that LeBron wasn't stepping to him as like don't talk about him as a basketball player, but rather than he was stepping to him saying like when you on your shit, you saying as a father, you shouldn't let your son do this. So LeBron, talking to him from that angle, I'm kind of on LeBron's side. You know what I'm saying. So if I come to you and be like, don't give me parenting tips in the public type shit like that Like you can't tell me what's good as a parent, especially when I ain't I mean, it ain't like he snorting cocaine or shooting the nigga, just playing basketball. But this is what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

It'll be totally different if you were to say, LeBron, I need to holler at you.

Speaker 2:

You see what I'm saying, somebody capture that and then he like no, no, he's like nah, I need to holler at you, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

Then we can start speculating, but man, but either way, it's not wrong how you feel about Stephen A going on different podcasts and kind of, I guess, explaining his side of it, but more or less. I mean Stephen A yells a lot anyway, so it's not like he's going to be him, but it do come off a way Like I seen him on yeah. Yeah, I seen him on Gil Gil, yeah.

Speaker 1:

I seen him on Nerd talking crazy.

Speaker 2:

I only watched that for one reason I didn't really care for it.

Speaker 1:

I just wanted to see the interaction between him and Rashad McKenzie.

Speaker 2:

Who's Stephen A Smith? And Falcone was what I thought what you thought was good.

Speaker 1:

Because it's like bro, like Certain people, I'm trying to you know, but we gonna get monetized.

Speaker 2:

One of these days.

Speaker 1:

I'm trying to edit my verbiage.

Speaker 2:

Oh, we, we doing that.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

My bad.

Speaker 1:

Early on. I keep looking at the time Like, okay, we got. Then I can go in Mother, but we might need to work on that. That's the time I'm like okay, we got you, we got you, then I can go in and murder. We might need to work on that. That's where it come from. You know, I want you to put two feet in this body bag and then when he get there, he like I mean you was saying oh, I just want you to clarify you know what I'm saying it's different when motherfuckers is in your face Is in your face, your face.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's like that all the time.

Speaker 1:

It don't care who we're here. Hey, what you say.

Speaker 2:

Mm-hmm, you really good, but see, and that's also why, like on LeBron end, rather than me saying something, rather than me saying something like to a news reporter or something, I'm coming straight to you. No, yeah, like straight, ain't? No, I didn't get what you said. Ain't? No, I didn't get what you said.

Speaker 1:

Why, you, you know what I'm saying but Brian knows like bro you too big of a figure, yeah for you to even try anything like that, but. I feel like it was one of them things like I've been talking, talking about this so when he finally seen him, it wasn't no restraint, because it was like oh nah, nigga, what? Oh, you heard you right here.

Speaker 2:

I got you that type of energy, so I mean. One of you would have said I need to holler at you and just, stephen A just left, he just ha just out the building gone.

Speaker 1:

That show was type of man he is.

Speaker 2:

On some other shit.

Speaker 1:

That shrimp was good. I'm going to go get more shrimp.

Speaker 2:

That's what you got to do to Irish.

Speaker 1:

goodbye you got to be out there, I'm going to get more shrimp. And they just disappear.

Speaker 2:

Just gone Valley.

Speaker 1:

Mr Smith, it's only halftime.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I haven't seen him in a while.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I know we cutting out TNT, but I think he on everybody's podcast right now because he got to fill it up. He got a new contract. I mean yeah.

Speaker 2:

Shit, he got it. I mean he got, like you said, a contract. He got his podcast. He trying to do his own thing, so yeah, pop it off. So when you in that, when you and he's smart as shit when it comes to the media space, so when I'm I mean this is what I do, so I'm yeah, but that was the only thing Like I watched that just for that I

Speaker 1:

wanted to see Rashad. He like cowered like a mother. Mm-hmm, you did say like you're like nigga, and it was crazy because Stephen A just like Listen, brother.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, I might not have played in North Carolina.

Speaker 2:

That's another thing I don't like, though, because these are news reporters, right? You got people online talking about a person that couldn't even make it in colleges, talking about another person play basketball.

Speaker 1:

Nigga, nigga. First off, I hate when people say that Even the actual ball players, bro. Even the actual ball players, bro, because it takes a spectator to watch what you're doing for you to even have that job.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Somebody has to critique that shit, but that's just like everybody online Nigga. When the March Madness is about to happen, everybody going to be talking crazy about these different players. All of us is on the fucking couch not doing shit.

Speaker 1:

It's cool for a motherfucker to watch your game and say, hey, you ESPN top 100. Nigga, they named me top 100. This nigga may have never played a game. That validation just gave you all the confidence in the world. But now, when you made it like then, you ain't never played.

Speaker 2:

What are you talking about? I don't get that.

Speaker 1:

I don't get that. Like I said, if nobody's critiquing you, bro you. But that's what the you have food critics, I was just about to say, but they can tell your ass if that food good or not?

Speaker 2:

What's missing? They can tell you what's missing, nigga, the Double XL Magazine. You forgot the cinnamon and nutmeg. When the sources was giving out five mics, them niggas wasn't rappers and shit, but we looked forward to seeing who got a three mic, four mic, five mic. Not too many fives out there though Not too many fives.

Speaker 1:

Not too many fives.

Speaker 2:

That was his shit, though What'd you get me?

Speaker 1:

Two, put them exes on there how you do that Control.

Speaker 2:

Put me on. What was his group? The Hangman 3 or whatever.

Speaker 1:

I don't know, I just thought. I always thought that nigga Was a part of the Beatnuts.

Speaker 2:

Nah, he wasn't part of them, I'm just saying. But I understand, I understand what else we on? What else going on? Man, rolling Loud happened, you don't. You don't do Rolling Loud, rolling Loud happened, you don't do. Rolling Loud, rolling Loud happened. What you think about this new song cuz?

Speaker 1:

I seen LaVar Walker. Lavar Walker's like hey, nigga, you grew up in Chino Hills, your mother's wife, this nigga talking gangster, gangster, cuz he talking.

Speaker 2:

Nigga, you can't fuck with me, cuz you ain't no tweaker, not a bad sound. If the music is good, the music is good, not a bad sound, but when you looking at who it is.

Speaker 1:

Are we there for the story, though? What's the story? That's what I'm saying. I'm just there for. Okay, I'm glad you this is going to go into something different. Playboy quality.

Speaker 2:

What about Playboy?

Speaker 1:

Did you hear that album?

Speaker 2:

I did those 30 songs there's 30 songs.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I told you I don't get it. My brother told me, bro, it's rage music.

Speaker 2:

He was like that's for the ragers. His music is just for performances.

Speaker 1:

Boom.

Speaker 3:

And I'm crazy, I lose it on tour. But you knew that the list was full.

Speaker 2:

Why my nigga laugh in the middle of a verse? The nigga's, a demon, hold up. Have it near my way. Like Usher dawg. Red and blue diamond. Like Usher dawg.

Speaker 3:

Upscore on you niggas like Rucker dawg. I'm sore cause I got it off the muscle dawg Streets ready for this shit right here. Drop, drop, drop, drop. Watch watch Elionte go big White gold link fall on the belly. The emerald cut for her. I'm sorry, cuz that bitch on point like A$AP Relly I'm talking about. The numbers is nothing, the money is nothing.

Speaker 2:

I really be hell, my the nigga is the greatest to ever do it. I'm sorry, give me two seconds.

Speaker 3:

I promise they can't even heavy out west and I carry the weight. Nigga, I'm Luka Doncic. Conspiracy theories is given, but I must admit it, you got the wrong person. They bundling Maine, chicago slaying.

Speaker 2:

Which one of you niggas.

Speaker 3:

A merchant, merchant, merchant, yeah, merchant Cardo, my evil twin. Cardi, my evil twin. My skin is smoother, my teeth is whiter. My Sorry.

Speaker 2:

Bruh. That was the best part of the album. That's the best part on the whole album, the features. That nigga's a fucking maze and I'm sorry.

Speaker 1:

And I don't bruh, like I was telling my brother, I don't feel, I feel like that was just like at this point he trolling, oh yeah, yeah yeah, for sure, not only is he trolling, yeah. This is effortless bro. This ain't even shit, I wrote down.

Speaker 2:

And it was recent because Luka just got out to the West. I just wrote this yesterday.

Speaker 1:

Stop it right there, bring it back.

Speaker 2:

Why he laugh, cuz the nigga laughed in the middle of the person.

Speaker 1:

He's a fucking demon do you think that's a shot at your boy? Yeah okay yeah, yeah, yeah, let's stay on this talk because something came out today, but uh, back to that, like I was telling my brother if I had to come, like I was trying to find something I could compare it to like in our time and I was like bro, the only thing I can say is maybe Playboy is his crowds, lil Jon, because I don't hear anything but chants.

Speaker 2:

And that's all it is. Get to where I'm at right now. Yeah, you see what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and that's why Lil Jon was.

Speaker 2:

That's a good one. You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

And I'm not saying he's, I'm not comparing him to Lil Jon, but I'm comparing him to Lil Jon. Yeah, if that makes sense.

Speaker 2:

It's them shit to get rowdy to. It's like rock and roll Nigga, like we out here wildin' Fucking Mosh, let's go.

Speaker 1:

This is like listening to this. Like I told my brother bruh, I'm hearing one big track.

Speaker 2:

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1:

And it has different breaks in it.

Speaker 2:

But I'm like bruh.

Speaker 1:

This is literally like when I'm hearing this I'm thinking of like Guns N' Roses.

Speaker 2:

Welcome to the jungle. The production on this album, though, is fucking crazy.

Speaker 1:

I just I kind of do yeah, because you will, fucking you be in the mosh pits and shit.

Speaker 2:

I love mosh pits. Come on bro, I love that shit. But so I watch people react to the album right, me and my kids be. You know they be watching their streamers react to them. Yeah, so we watch different people react to different albums. This is Watching people react to this album was weird, because it's not that type of music. It's not that type of music to sit back and hmm okay. He said okay Because it don't even sound good until when I put it in the car. That motherfucker was going.

Speaker 1:

And that's why I said Lil Jon it's.

Speaker 2:

Lil Jon. It's Lil Jon.

Speaker 1:

Like okay, back to the Red Chevy days Fucking gorillas, going crazy in that trap. You want to hear uh-huh, you want to hear that shit. That's why I said, like maybe this is that. To where I'm going to feel like nigga we going out? To the motherfucking whatever.

Speaker 2:

to where a motherfucker, like nigga, we going out to the motherfucking whatever. But at least you can kind of pinpoint it to something. Because what I don't like is when older people be like because, yeah, we don't get it, but we can also pinpoint and be like, okay, I understand why y'all on it. Because we did have Lil Jon, we had Scrappy, we had Crime Mob.

Speaker 1:

Shout out to my brother. Like I said, he was like bro, you listening to it or you trying to listen to, excuse me, word in his heart.

Speaker 3:

Shout out to Terry.

Speaker 1:

Moore, but he basically telling me, like you trying to listen, to Damn. You trying to listen to it with a different kind of ear and I was like, okay, well, let me find somebody where I don't listen for the lyrics. And I was like Lil.

Speaker 2:

Jon, that's Lil Jon Boom the whole crunk era.

Speaker 1:

And when I put it in that I'm like, okay, I'm starting to get it. This is for niggas. That's like Reggie Nigga. I'm about to take my shirt off, go barefoot and mosh with these motherfuckers in here. If I punch a bitch, I'm punching her.

Speaker 2:

It is what it is.

Speaker 1:

If I get punched, it's cool because I'm in the pit.

Speaker 2:

You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

Once I put it in my mind this is what that's for. Yeah, that's exactly what it is. Okay, cool, yeah, I get it. But then I was like you have motherfuckers that's really trying to rap, I don't care for okay, I get that.

Speaker 2:

Did you hear the idea?

Speaker 1:

if that's what he gonna give us from here on out, it's gonna be it's gonna be a little shaky.

Speaker 2:

It to be a little shaky, I'll tell you who did go crazy on that bitch. Future, though, yeah, hey, I don't know If you are of a certain age, maybe what's about 25-ish, 25-ish or 30 to that area, Future has to be y'all GOAT Like Future has to be y'all GOAT Like future has to be. That guy like I mean I was late to future Like I mean, of course, racks on racks and shit. I heard him. I didn't really start fucking with him until 56 Nights, though. That's when I was like, oh, I've been missing a little, A little bit of it. I've been missing. You know what I'm saying? What was we talking about? A little technical difference and we back and we bike, we bike you were talking about.

Speaker 1:

You were talking about Future being that goat.

Speaker 2:

He's a goat, I don't even yeah.

Speaker 1:

We were talking about 56 Nights, that's when you had caught on.

Speaker 2:

I was late to the party but I I remember Shout out to LJ. I remember LJ and niggas like that being like Girl. You don't fuck with him. I'm like Nah, not really, just not for me.

Speaker 1:

It was like Gucci man.

Speaker 2:

I. I've never really been a Gucci fan, though.

Speaker 1:

I caught on late to Gucci.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Cause the first song I played when my son was born was on there.

Speaker 2:

And that wasn't.

Speaker 1:

That wasn't.

Speaker 2:

I'm a person who liked the later years of just versus the stuffy sounding Gucci. I mean, it was cool, it had its bops Too well decked. Yeah, that wasn't really mine. I remember I used to argue with Glove about Gucci being. Because Gucci is his guy, that's like his number one. You know what I'm saying? Gucci and Ross, that's who he fuck with more than anybody. So I remember going back and forth with him. He just never really was my guy. Before we get off the Playboy Cardi album fully, though, yeah.

Speaker 2:

It's been proved he used AI on a few tracks. Terrible, first of all, for what you're doing. It's not like you're like.

Speaker 1:

If the AI wrote, rolling on my wrist. If the AI, if the AI wrote.

Speaker 2:

If the AI did that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. It's not like you really needed AI, well, well, but yeah, he out here, juking streamers Show it, show it, show it.

Speaker 2:

Let's not forget he brought a at Rolling Loud. He brought a Casanato stage with him. That was wild Dude is he's huge Paul.

Speaker 1:

Yes, dude is like the new fucking superstar bro.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, nah, him, I Show Speed. There's a few of them, streamers, who get into places like how you get there just from talking on camera? We working on it, but when you command them views they motherfuckers trying to, they trying to monetize them views.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's keeping attention for hours though. Them nigg man them views. Mhm, they motherfuckers trying to?

Speaker 2:

they trying to monetize them views. Yeah, that's keeping attention for hours, though them niggas be streaming for like hours.

Speaker 1:

That's why when people like do short, they try to do short. What is it short? Short content like yeah short form yeah bruh, it don't matter, whatever them people, whatever whatever community you amass bro whatever they fucking with, that's what you got to ride with you see what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

So, like I mean, this is the one that's going around, so I'm going to use it, the example Like 106 and Park yeah, we used to run home to see that shit. You see what I'm saying. And then come the next day, shit, shit, nigga. I remember rap city in the basement.

Speaker 2:

Uh, see this world um, what's my dude hits from the streets, yeah um, who else we have?

Speaker 1:

uh shit, if you was really in the music, motherfucker, you went to TRL.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'm about to say we had MTV TRL yeah.

Speaker 1:

MTV jams in the morning before school.

Speaker 2:

And we had the box. Did y'all ever look at the box? Yeah, yeah yeah. I ain't no cuss.

Speaker 1:

My daddy graduated in 89. I'm getting all that shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Is it my ass beat for fucking up tables?

Speaker 2:

Hey, I started starting up my collection of ordering CDs and shit, so I went and ordered 400 Degrees. I got Mystical, unpredictable, and I'm looking for Ghetto Dope.

Speaker 1:

I can't find Ghetto Dope, though I wonder if they're going to be original.

Speaker 2:

See, that's what I'm. I'm ordering some from Amazon. I've seen some from Amazon. Some of them say new and then used. So I've been ordering the new. So when they get here, hopefully I want them in plastic Reprints, I want them in plastic. I don't care, I mean they're going to be reprinted.

Speaker 1:

You know what I'm saying? It ain't going to be a Buckley, you're going to get a sleeve. Nah, I don't need all that You're going to get a sleeve with just a picture of.

Speaker 2:

Al McGovern, Just on the front of that bitch. That's all we got cuz.

Speaker 2:

Open it up, it's going to be blank. I just been printing these motherfuckers off for people man Today, allegedly. Now I just been reading seeing what's up. But UMG have filed to get the lawsuit dismissed against them from Drake and everybody else, right. So I've been reading some of the shit that's in the paper, though they're pretty much calling him a bitch, like they pretty much called drink a bitch. It's one part in there saying you were the one, or say he was, he was the one commanding kendrick to drop, drop right. That's what it say. And then it says he also used an ai voice of tupac telling kendrick duckworth to talk about him liking young girls. And then they put the lyrics in there and it's like they just going back and forth like this is what you did.

Speaker 2:

This is what you did.

Speaker 1:

And then this is what he did.

Speaker 2:

Response to you. You know what I'm saying. Like, I'm just reading through it a little bit. It's a lot. I ain't read the whole thing yet, but just skimming through some of what people have posted. They like nah, fam, we not about to let this go.

Speaker 1:

Okay, let's say the matter's resolved.

Speaker 2:

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1:

Drake's big enough to go solo or independent.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, mm-hmm, I don't even understand what's his angle of suing.

Speaker 1:

I don't understand at this point, and I don't know anything about the industry, but at this point, why does any man want to be underneath anybody? A?

Speaker 2:

label, especially when you don't and you don't have to. That goes into JD talking about independent too. Did you hear what he said? Especially when you don't have to. That goes into JD talking about independent too. Did you hear what he said? Jd posted online and was like why would anybody want to be independent? Y'all are looking to get the same thing that people get when they're signed. So why would you want to be independent, but like from JD? That seemed like a stupid question, because you, you should understand of all people. Why would somebody want to be independent? But like from jd? That seemed like a a stupid question, because you, you should understand of all people. Why would somebody want to be?

Speaker 1:

independent. First off, I own my shit, yeah, but say who is uh? Does he have a parent come?

Speaker 2:

who jd. I don't actually I don't know how jd is working right now, because that's the one of the things he rebuttaled and was like I know people with major deals who own all their stuff and can move how they want. There's not many, though there's only a few, that can move like that.

Speaker 1:

Like the Jell-O ball.

Speaker 2:

Like Jell-O, I mean he doing his thing. But at this point it don't even really have to be at this point. When Drake was offered that 400 million, At that time he could have went solo.

Speaker 1:

Alright, I put it like this, cause I don't know nothing about that shit, but I know us. We are working independent.

Speaker 2:

Right now. Yes, sir.

Speaker 1:

Shit is tough.

Speaker 2:

It's a grind.

Speaker 1:

So, and we doing it with the little bit that we got. So I can only imagine a motherfucker grinding up. And okay, let's say we grind up to the point to where we do have 100,000 to break. Yeah, yeah, yeah, In two.

Speaker 2:

Nigga, I'm going to feel good about that. It's going to be amazing, because nobody feel good about that.

Speaker 1:

It's going to be amazing, because nobody give me that 50.

Speaker 2:

It's going to be amazing, but we grinding from the bottom right now. Yeah, drake going independent. Right now. He's Drake already. His name has already amassed anything you can think of. So if he split ways from his parent company and just put out a Drake OVO sound, I'm dropping a new album. You can only get it from here, people doing that.

Speaker 1:

My next question would be would he be able to fight against the Tide then? Like, do he have enough to really go against? You know what I'm saying? Because at that point does he have the same relationships?

Speaker 2:

so what I think? What, what?

Speaker 1:

what I think what would have to happen with drake is he would have to stop worrying about numbers so much you know what that's understood, but what I was trying to say was that he had the same relationship with these venues as the major labels do, because even, like you said, you might not be we in Knoxville, tennessee, just as a reference point, but you might not be able to sell out Thompson Bowling Arena Mm-hmm, but you for damn sure can sell out the Civic. Nah, the Civic Auditorium.

Speaker 2:

That's bigger than the B. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I got you, I got you, I got you.

Speaker 1:

Now would that fuck with his ego, though.

Speaker 2:

That's the problem. I think it would, but at this point, when it comes to touring, you already, drake.

Speaker 1:

So, if I yeah, but you ain't doing no clubs Like the Malibu.

Speaker 2:

No, no, no, no, no. That's not what I'm saying, but your name is already your name when a venue might be able to say Okay, we think you can Do that, but can you make more?

Speaker 1:

money than the label can pay them. Your name, where a venue might be able to say okay, we think you can do that, but can you make more money than the label can pay them? That's what that's going in intertwining.

Speaker 2:

Well, I don't.

Speaker 1:

I don't know how that will work because at that point, if, if a motherfucker can't make money off of you, they won't, they gonna try to shortstop you. Yeah, I mean, I'm just thinking about, I'm just thinking about the street, mother, you ain't copper from from this nigga, no more, and he know it. A nigga gonna try to throw dirt on your name to where you can't go. Cop from Rob Markman.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but what I'm saying is he still have his fan base where, okay, if he does 50% of the numbers that he usually do, he's still pulling in enough for. But that's why I said he would have to stop worrying about numbers Because maybe he would never hit a number one again. But you'll be all right. When Nip wasn't even Nip that we know and loved by the end of his life, he sold Crenshaw for $100. The end of his life he was selling. He sold Crenshaw for $100. There's people out here right now selling albums for $100. The people that we don't even. You know what I'm saying. You have to just get now. You just have to be like shit. I'm Drake, I'm not. I'm not that nigga. I'm not Champagne Papi, no more. I'm Drake. I don't make $100 million a year made. I made 35 you gotta do.

Speaker 1:

You know, champagne poppy, the spritzer pop I'm drake.

Speaker 2:

Hey, how you doing now you gotta, you, wouldn't I? Don't think it ever get to that I don't think it will, but, but now you and chubbs gotta go out there and really hustle. But it's an easier hustle for you though, because you still have became Drake, nah, I get it, I get it. Only thing is that boogeyman's still out there See.

Speaker 3:

Drake. But yeah, I didn't understand.

Speaker 2:

Excuse me, I didn't understand. Excuse me, I didn't understand JD asking why would people want to be independent? Like it, just like.

Speaker 1:

I don't want to owe a nigga.

Speaker 2:

I don't want to. Yeah, maybe from y'all, but the thing is like everybody calling Tory Lanez album a flop, right. His new album, right. I don't know how much money he sold. Let's say he sold 50,000 in one week. For an independent person, a nigga from jail, that's fucking amazing.

Speaker 1:

And I didn't spend nothing on it.

Speaker 2:

I rapped over the phone Okay, call me back. I got two minutes.

Speaker 1:

Hey man, they having a riot.

Speaker 2:

You know what I'm saying 50,000 for an independent artist Is fucking insane. Speaking of jail.

Speaker 1:

Do you think that R Kelly Residual Was real? I do.

Speaker 2:

I do too. I do and I fucked with it and I'm about to say I'm not gonna lie. I said man, that nigga don't miss. I was talking to my wife about it. I was talking to my wife. I said that nigga still R Kelly. Like fuck him, lock him up, throw away the key, but that nigga still R Kelly, that nigga still chaos. Man, what did the nigga say?

Speaker 1:

Who's taking out?

Speaker 2:

He want to know where his residuals is. You know what I'm saying? Y'all making money off this nigga.

Speaker 1:

Y'all taking music. Y'all ain't putting on his books. Took the money off his books.

Speaker 2:

Now we can say what we want and ain't nobody listen to him. Somebody still listen to him because the label still got him on platforms. Something's coming in for that nigga. Step, step side to side.

Speaker 1:

I think I just said last five.

Speaker 2:

I'm just saying so somebody taking him.

Speaker 2:

A nigga still kill. I was riding around listening to Kells with my son. I was like you know what? I think I should turn this off because I'm supposed to show you a better Look. I'm telling my son. I was like you know what? I think I should turn this off because I'm supposed to show you a better Look. I'm telling my son. I said I'm supposed to show you better than this, because if a nigga doing crazy shit like this, you ain't supposed to listen to him. I said but before I turn it off, though, listen to this though and tell me this shit.

Speaker 1:

If you pull everybody's skeletons out. You probably ain't listening to nobody.

Speaker 2:

That's facts.

Speaker 1:

But it's. There's some gospel singers out here that.

Speaker 2:

But like I told my son though it's different, because with the other people it's alleged, so you still can stand on. Maybe it didn't happen, maybe it did, we don't know but there's a video of this. I don't know what's going on.

Speaker 1:

I ain't talking about that. I'm talking about what he actually went to jail.

Speaker 2:

I don't know what the is going on, but nah, fuck that nigga. Though it was R Kelly, though he was the R.

Speaker 1:

He was the R the.

Speaker 2:

Pied Piper, whoa hey yo why people didn't get that.

Speaker 1:

Didn't he still get? Hey, fuck it, he's jamming he's popping off right now.

Speaker 2:

He's jamming and you know what's crazy about that? Cause people wanna now say they don't fuck with what he did, because he's in jail for it. Right, chappelle was making jokes about it. Everybody knew, everybody knew the videotape was being sold on fucking bodegas in New York, nigga.

Speaker 1:

They probably bypassed it because they was, some of them, niggas at the high school Because they know niggas and they was the niggas who?

Speaker 2:

Ain't it my dude, when it?

Speaker 1:

came out. I was still a kid, I was LL. When he did Damn. What's the name of the song? I told you I'd be true, but Tina got a big old butt. So I'm leaving.

Speaker 2:

So I'm leaving you.

Speaker 1:

What'd he say? I can't think of it right now because I'm wanting to say it, but he said Honey was still in high school.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we can go back to a lot of those songs. Public Enemy Got Some Shit.

Speaker 1:

Beastie Boys.

Speaker 2:

Beastie Boys Got Some Shit.

Speaker 1:

KRS-One.

Speaker 2:

KRS-One Aaron Hoff.

Speaker 3:

I grabbed that bitch by the hand.

Speaker 2:

And I took her upstairs. It's only funny because me and my wife was talking about mystical the other day. Right, and mystical is mystical. That's your favorite rapper. That nigga said. I came in with my dick in my hand.

Speaker 1:

Be cool. What'd he say? Don't worry about what. That's just what I do. Don't worry about how I'm gripping, how I'm Whoa.

Speaker 2:

And in another song he say he say I'm the thief in the night that's gonna slide the drawers off you.

Speaker 1:

Are y'all married? Because if not, that's rape fella, that is rape what's?

Speaker 2:

going on. He said he got a song on the tarantula. If I hit you one time, you hook. They call me the pussy crook. Oh Whoa, I said damn, I'm in there like.

Speaker 1:

He's been telling on himself for a long time.

Speaker 2:

That's what I'm saying when you brought up R Kelly, I'm like damn nigga. We was listening to Mystical too.

Speaker 1:

Damn that nigga have been the perv His whole career.

Speaker 2:

Mystical, made me want to rap. That's the person who made me want to get into rapping.

Speaker 1:

You can talk like this Boy.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, man.

Speaker 1:

These niggas crazy.

Speaker 2:

Let's get away from that a little bit.

Speaker 1:

Get away from that a little bit. My favorite rapper is.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, who your favorite rapper? We can break it down.

Speaker 1:

My favorite rapper is an instrumentalist. Right now, with my dude they spell say Doodly doodly, doodly, doodly. What you think about that big crit in Bubba Sparks song before we get into anything else, man, I already heard the snippet, but you know, crit, my dude, I didn't even know Bubba Sparks was on there. I just seen it on Big.

Speaker 2:

Crit and Crit. It's Bubba's song. I watched the video the other day. I didn't know it. Is it good? It's not bad? Yeah, I mean, bubba Sparks is Bubba.

Speaker 1:

Sparks. He's never been like that guy, but wasn't bad. I'm here now. I must improve. What bad man. All right, I got to check it out. I told you, bro, I listen to.

Speaker 2:

Playboy Cardi.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, these last, you know, you know what's been going on. Yeah, yeah yeah, I ain't really been listening to too much of nothing, bro. I've been trying to keep up with, I guess, the day-to-day in rap. But I just seen what Dolce said and I took it as face value because, like I told one of my brothers, I was like I didn't looking at that, I'm not putting, I'm not correlating that to her song.

Speaker 2:

What song the gay dude? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

So when she talking about straight men being a red flag you know me being a straight man I took offense to it. But, like I said, I didn't correlate it to the song and maybe that was a joke between her and her friend.

Speaker 2:

I did. First hearing it, you're like damn that kind of.

Speaker 1:

That's why I said that face yeah, yeah, yeah. But then you hey preference.

Speaker 2:

It is what you like.

Speaker 1:

That's what I'm saying. Man Preference it is what you like, that's what I'm saying, man.

Speaker 2:

Whatever you like Is what you like. I can't help that yeah.

Speaker 1:

Elevator Bites is still a good, great album Project.

Speaker 2:

UMG said Facts and criticism Concerning Drake's relationship With minors Predate Not Like Us and have been widely reported. Nothing that Lamar is including, nothing that Pretty much is not new. They said rumors and speculations around his misbehavior around minors and that of Millie Bobby Brown is one of the things that most people are aware when it comes to Drake and the rumors around him. She talked about texting with Drake on the red carpet.

Speaker 1:

That was crazy.

Speaker 2:

When she was, you know, A minor.

Speaker 1:

That's fucking hilarious.

Speaker 2:

If this is real paperwork, umg fucking own some shit Cause, he said. She said she talked about him texting Drake when, you know she was A minor and then when she was like so what do you and Drake text about? Oh, I'll keep that in the messages. Why, what the fuck is going on. It was like so what do you and Drake text about? Oh, I'll keep that in the messages. Why, what the fuck is going on?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, like this haircut or this haircut.

Speaker 2:

Oh, anyway, anyway, what else we got. I have nothing else, so what's up?

Speaker 1:

I'm getting a camo.

Speaker 2:

Album of the week sirs madams is from Camp Low. Album of the week sirs madams is from Camp Low, a New York rap duo. This album comes from 1997. It is called Uptown Saturday Night. It was their debut album. The singles from it is Luchini, which was their biggest song, biggest biggest song. That was dropped in 96. And that's crazy because cooley high was another single. It was dropped in 95 but the album didn't come out to 97 okay, then it makes sense.

Speaker 1:

All right, it makes total sense go ahead, what's up? No, because I'm listening to this shit. I'm like bro, this is 97 yeah, it sounds.

Speaker 2:

It's. Some of it sounded dated, bro. It sounded like it came out in like 94. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, shit, I'm like bro, this is 97 yeah, it sounds it's.

Speaker 1:

Some of it sounded dated, bro.

Speaker 2:

It sounded like it came out in like 94 yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah and I'm like this couldn't have so that coolie hot came out in august of 95, lucini came out in october of 96. They were signed with arista, so I'm guessing there had to be some type of had to be had to be some uh label work. Working on this was uh 15, 15 songs, uh. It did debut at number 27 on the U S uh billboard 200. And then on the top R and B and hip hop albums it dropped at number five, um. So I mean it has some good reception to it which was mainly due to Luchini. Like Luchini was back then it was like a, it was like an outcast vibe-ish. At least the look of it was. You know what I'm saying, not necessarily the sound of it you said they was go ahead.

Speaker 1:

I'm sorry, you said they was go ahead.

Speaker 2:

I'm sorry, nah, you go ahead Nah you said they was in Aristan.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, they was signed to Aristan. No wonder they was pushback yeah.

Speaker 1:

Whitney Houston, santana, tlc Monica yeah.

Speaker 2:

That's just a few of them. Now that I was about to say, it seemed like that one song got so big but they couldn't match that height. But if you are a sign to us and we got these people and your song did cool, but it ain't.

Speaker 3:

We got other shit that we it didn't curl all the way, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

So even that kind of make a lot of sense. Each song was produced by Jocko.

Speaker 1:

Jocko, don't know, jocko, but he a part of the group.

Speaker 2:

Well, one of the songs was produced by him and the rest of they wording this wrong. Anyway, the album had 15 songs. Some of my favorite tracks on here was Luchini. Of course I like Negro League, and then I like B-Side to Hollywood and then I did like Cooley High. Those are like my four go-tos on there, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I think mine are the same, because I could not get down with it. What made me feel like this shit was so outdated was rocking it, aka Spanish Army. Yeah, I was like what. I had to go back and look at this album credits, bro, to see what year it came out. I was like nigga did we just come out of?

Speaker 2:

Like what's going on right here, yeah?

Speaker 1:

But once again, this came out two years prior. It was supposed to come out maybe in 95, so they probably recorded this in like 93, 94.

Speaker 2:

It say recorded between 94 and 96.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

And then released in 97. Yeah, so that got to suck you sitting on an album and then it kind of you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

That shit did not age well, bro, nah, like outside of Luchini.

Speaker 2:

And Luchini is just nostalgia feel I'm going to say boom.

Speaker 1:

I really feel like it's just a production bro. And maybe the video, because I do remember the video. Yeah, but that's one of my favorite songs.

Speaker 2:

And that's why I say they give that kind of. At that time it was like an outcast look. I mean not that they didn't sound like outcast, but that whole vibe of Southern playalistic type shit.

Speaker 1:

You know what I'm saying Especially, but, bro, I don't know the two artists' names and I should have did more.

Speaker 2:

You got them Sonny Chiba and Geechee Suede.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, is that the one? So, but Chiba, why? If he would have kept that sound, bro, it wouldn't have lasted.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, Now the other one, I feel like he was trying to change it up but dude only had one style throughout the whole album.

Speaker 2:

I think listening to it now, I don't know what they was trying to do, but it seemed like they should have focused more on a core fan base and maybe that's what they was trying to do, but Luchini just got too big and they couldn't just keep up with it. And they couldn't keep up with it. You know I'm saying so. Maybe at some point they was trying to follow that. But you try one of the rappers from try.

Speaker 1:

He was on um uh b uh, the hollywood song yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know I'm wearing trip. Uh, I knew her yeah yeah, yeah, but I didn't.

Speaker 2:

And then they and it kind of their second album, which, kind of going to what I was saying, their second album was called let's Do it Again, where it's like and maybe y'all titled it that for a different reason I couldn't find it on DSPs to listen to it, but it kind of give that vibe of like I find it on DSPs to listen to it, but it kind of give that vibe of like I feel this hey, let's let's try that one more time but it wasn't even that.

Speaker 1:

It was like well, what I was getting from it, even from the whole aesthetic of the album and the videos and shit, was it was like they were trying to capture that 70s feel. Yeah, this is what we think is cool and about it. Yeah, hence the album. The album, uh, art for this album, yeah, uh, and then let's do it again. Title that was a like, let's do it again. I instantly think of, uh, your man's, bill kyle's, being uh, they call me mr ted you know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 2:

What's his name? Yeah, please.

Speaker 1:

No movie have you seen? Let's do it again. What's the black man name from?

Speaker 2:

I've never seen this I've never seen raising in the sun damn it.

Speaker 1:

I'm sorry, I'm I'm sorry that's what I'm gonna do.

Speaker 2:

I'm gonna pick a movie every week and watch it and try to come in and be like, oh, I finally sound found some movies that people say I should have been watching boom, sydney 48.

Speaker 1:

My bad, ah, okay, they call me mr tibbs. You don't even know who it is anyway, but I, like I said, man, I feel like that was probably caught up in nostalgia, like we could rap, we sound different, but this is what we want to rap about and this is the feel we going for. I feel like they totally missed the mark outside of Luchini.

Speaker 2:

Rob Markman, that's my only thing about it. I don't think they could pull it off like a Southern player. You know what I'm saying? There's other people who's tried to do that. That's put it off way better than yeah. Yeah, Because once they start rapping, they too rapidly rap for that style.

Speaker 1:

And your boy, kind of like Maybe it was me, but I was hearing a lot of Recycle shit in it.

Speaker 2:

Hmm.

Speaker 1:

Especially like you could tell when niggas. I guess this was the time period when you had to keep Saying your name Over and over.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I let people Know who you was Cause.

Speaker 1:

That was kinda Killing the vibe for me, cause I was like Is he talking about One of the homeboys In the crew, or?

Speaker 2:

is this how he talk?

Speaker 1:

about it, cause I like With the Cheeba. What's up, mr Che? Who is this Chibu guy? I gotta know who this is? Yeah, cause I can't read the song. Critics on here. Outside of what year it was made, who the composers are and producers. But you know back in the day you could slap that bitch over.

Speaker 2:

And see what that yeah.

Speaker 1:

Oh, dude, wrote the whole verse Okay.

Speaker 2:

And then when you look up anything Like their second album and shit like that, you can't, I mean you can find like this is as much as I find on the second album and that's that's it that's why, when you bought the album, back in the day.

Speaker 1:

You did, you said it, told you, yeah, you said it like that's why, back in the day, when you bought the album, that was so important, yeah, cause that's when motherfuckers knew like I ain't damn who made the beat. Damn black child, who the fuck is black child? Yeah, and then you, like you start going back to different shit, like, oh, he produced somebody from new york. Well, let me see, yeah, he yeah oh, this nigga everywhere nigga.

Speaker 1:

Chris Webber did this. Daddy, you knew Chris Webber played basketball and music and do music like that type of shit, but niggas ain't doing the shit. Else, if a motherfucker don't put they tag in the beat, you don't know the producer and then 9 times out of 10 if they a newer act.

Speaker 1:

You ain't gonna know the rapper, right right, cause everybody sound the same. At least back in the day it was like nah, that nah newer. Hey, you ain't gonna know the rapper Because everybody sound the same. At least back in the day it was like nah, that ain't ABC, that's.

Speaker 2:

Criss Cross. They wear their clothes back, you see what I'm saying. So what you get?

Speaker 1:

is the what this album.

Speaker 2:

I'm gonna give it a two. That's what I got. I was about to say Outside of of lucini is actually a hard listen did you like the remix at the very end?

Speaker 1:

I didn't need it.

Speaker 2:

I didn't need it because I was like bro, this is not a better version yeah what y'all got so one thing about remixes back in the day which they don't do a lot now, which is cool they just used to put a beat on top of a song, like they just change the beat and say that's the remix. No, sometimes, I mean, sometimes you get the verse, other verses and shit, but like a lot of times it's just like, yeah, just throw the remix at the end. Yeah, not needed at all At all. You know what I'm saying. But outside of Luchini and Cooley High, I like C.

Speaker 1:

It's a hard listen. Like it's like A tough listen. I can't take too many Cheeba Watt.

Speaker 2:

The production is cool, but I don't. From this first album.

Speaker 1:

I honestly Don't think they could've Did anything else, did they show the numbers Of how many they sold?

Speaker 2:

Let's see, honestly, with something like this, that you can't find so much on.

Speaker 1:

Nah, that's why that's what I'm asking. That's crazy that they even made it to a second album Not to say it like that, but they said they said the album was independent, though. It wasn't under.

Speaker 2:

Arista so.

Speaker 1:

Talent is talent.

Speaker 2:

I ain't knocking nobody, they made it no, I don't see no album sales at all shit, they probably got dropped after this. Yeah, I mean obviously yeah, obviously yeah. But I, like I said, I get an album or two. I think they could have focused on like a core bass and just being okay with that. But that Luchini song got so big it's like I think that could have been hard to follow.

Speaker 1:

I think it would have been a better project if it was dropped when it was supposed to be dropped.

Speaker 2:

And then go from and see what happened from there.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, even then I think that would have been tough because, like it, is 94 it is certified gold.

Speaker 2:

It says it sold over 500 000. Don't have a for sure number, but it do say it did sell over 500 000 to be a gold album. Though that's, that's especially back then for them. Yeah, that's, that's gravy.

Speaker 1:

But I mean even for like, let's say it was supposed to drop in 94. You still coming off of like nwa? Yeah, uh, uh, uh, uh, excuse me, uh, the chronic I.

Speaker 2:

I'm about to say the West Coast in that era was on another run. You had Pac and everybody. That's why I'm naming them, Because that's hard to do.

Speaker 1:

The only motherfucker that was coming out of the East was maybe Biggie At that time.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, because Jay was when did. Wu-tang drop. Wu-tang was 92. 92. I think so. Yeah, because Jay was. When did Wu-Tang drop Wu-Tang?

Speaker 1:

was 92?, 92?, I think. So I'm on it then, because I'm like bro, that's fucking hard to do. I understand why I was pushed, but it shouldn't have been pushed two years yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

I mean, and the reason I'm bringing that up. I think that would have made a whole hell of a lot of a difference.

Speaker 2:

So let me ask you this If that, when did Southern kind of that's 90.

Speaker 1:

They did Beamer and Benz. What is it? Beamer and Benz or New Jersey Drive soundtrack before they did Southern Player Listed. Southern Player Listed was a Christmas song.

Speaker 2:

Then they had to come up with that, because you know back then if you look or did anything like anybody else nowadays it's cool to be like I'm going to do what they do. You know what I'm saying. But back then if we saw OutKast like that first a duo 94.

Speaker 2:

94. If we saw OutKast two folks with that kind of style we might not even look at y'all like we even care about what y'all got going on, because back then you can't really just copy another nigga, not saying that they was, but that's what I got from them. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That whole aesthetic. You know what I'm saying? That whole aesthetic. Maybe they just couldn't do nothing with them, with them trying to do that. They didn't have the swag for that either, though, except for on that one song.

Speaker 1:

No, I get that. I get that, but that's hard to say because outside of a motherfucker having a DJ, it's a lot of two-man groups.

Speaker 2:

Mm-mm. Not a lot of two-man groups. Mm-mm, not a lot of two-man groups with that 70s swag. Okay, outkast had that on their first album. Now their second album they started to go a different way, but on their first album they had that. You get what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, like the inspiration you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

So it kind of I mean.

Speaker 1:

But At the same time Everybody kind of did, because the chronic Doggy style, all that's George Clinton and fucking Dexter Wanzel and them, that's the same.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but it's a different Pick of the litter of it though.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, with the vibe, okay yeah you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's all I got you. But yeah, yeah, that's all I got you, I got you.

Speaker 1:

But either way, I guess I'm trying to save him. I guess I no, no hold on, Hold on cuz.

Speaker 2:

Come here, Maybe we can get him to a two, five bro. I give it an album or two. I mean they got a couple of good songs on there, but overall it's really a hard listen though Listening to it. They too rapidly, Like I said, and I don't know if that makes sense, but to me they too rapidly rap For that kind of swag that they was trying to do.

Speaker 1:

It ain't no, akeem Ali.

Speaker 2:

You know what I'm saying? That?

Speaker 1:

nigga is Embodying all of that.

Speaker 2:

Player 70, shit Indeed.

Speaker 1:

You see what I'm saying, so it's all about how you go about it In that flow.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so it's all about how you go about it in that flow.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, because you can get in that same vein, but shit might not be hitting like dope, you feel me. Yeah, but yeah it's a two, my album going to be Legal Drug Money.

Speaker 2:

Legal Drug Money from the Lost Boys. What year was that? 96. We're going back. Baby, yeah, baby, let's go. Next week we'll be on the Lost Boys Legal Drug Money.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, man.

Speaker 2:

I'm sold.

Speaker 1:

I know that's Mr Cheeks and not the Lost.

Speaker 2:

Boys Mr Cheeks.

Speaker 1:

I thought he was going to be on the run.

Speaker 2:

Everybody did. I remember I was working at the mall chopping my sandwiches up. I seen that nigga walk by. Ain't nobody say nothing to him.

Speaker 1:

That's how they did Young Jop. When he came to our school, my cousin said hey, look at Young Jop's fat ass. Oh, damn Damn, he walked into school. Like you know, he was a superstar bro this one he had just came out, bro. You know he was on his little run. I don't know if this was a promo tour or whatever.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

You know, everybody used to hit up Tico's and they came to the school. We, the only black school in the town.

Speaker 2:

Yo yo, yo yo, you're not the only black school in the town.

Speaker 1:

Predominantly.

Speaker 2:

They are, they was, they are.

Speaker 1:

You on the north side, bro, they are.

Speaker 2:

So, yeah, anything else before we jump out of here Any plans for the week? We will be on time next week, yeah, yeah, yeah, anything else before we jump out of here Any plans for the week? We will be on time next week, yeah, yeah, yeah, we will be on time next week. We moving a little different. I'm able to eat now. Shit just hit, bro, it's life. Life boy, I'm trying to tell you Life, be life you back on your, your bowl size or food bowl size.

Speaker 1:

Nah nigga I, Full-size or full-size.

Speaker 2:

Nah, nigga. I bought me some chicken salad the other day right From Chicken Salad Chick. They told me to start with 1.5 ounces. Amazing, Teach me Shit. It's like it, cuz I ain't even eat all that. Got food in the motherfucker I'm talking about.

Speaker 1:

That's your food right there, ain't it Pretty?

Speaker 2:

much, yeah, I mean, I've been able to eat a little bit, but I still can't eat like. I can't eat no bread or nothing like that right now, so it's like chicken salad.

Speaker 1:

You go to the doctor, you say hey, man, have you had a bowel movement? I've been pissing in my ass. Pissed in my ass, they're like what? Yeah?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but nah, you gotta eat. I'm cooling, though I'm about to get back to work, so I'm straight, I'm loving it.

Speaker 1:

I ain't gonna lie, bro.

Speaker 3:

I be halfway through the week, motherfucker, you know what I?

Speaker 1:

mean Sunday, come I be like man. I can't wait to go back to work.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but I'm back though. But yeah, we'll be back on time next week. Late to the party.

Speaker 1:

Like, share and subscribe. Subscribe. Come on man, we on TikTok.

Speaker 2:

We really everywhere. We just trying to figure it out. This is why I start to understand why a podcast got a fucking team of shit.

Speaker 1:

Because people do certain things. You do this. I don't know how to manipulate the algorithm like that.

Speaker 2:

I be trying.

Speaker 1:

I ain't counting, I be seeing where it's like you're real has done 15 hits.

Speaker 2:

I'm like more we moving Because I got the big lights hey, niggas like you from the fall. Oh, I got the video, yeah. Hey, niggas like you from the fall. Oh yeah, yeah, that's cool. That be the thing too. It's like you get some. You don't really get the subscribers and shit and the followers, but the numbers be like. Because, when I do, because, like even on my barber page, on my YouTube, the numbers be looking good, be like, but where are the subscribers?

Speaker 1:

Nah, it's good Cause. I can't wait for a motherfucker to be like. Let me see your Instagram bitch and look at the YouTube.

Speaker 2:

We about to start popping, though we just working. Yeah, fuck with me, get with me cuz. Come on now.

Speaker 1:

But yeah, yeah, yeah, we gonna get there, man. Y'all help us man, and we'll help y'all by being more consistent. I can't do.

Speaker 2:

No, no, weird shit though we're going to get there, man.

Speaker 1:

Y'all help us, man, and we'll help y'all by being more consistent.

Speaker 2:

I can't do no weird shit though.

Speaker 1:

Everybody's like me. Maybe you should do it, nigga. No, what, though? What do we need to do, though? I don't know, maybe I got to RKO your ass through the table one time. They be like damn, that's going viral For real. Hey, man, shout out to the Street. Profits man. The only black tag team in WWE. Bro, they won. It's really my classmate husband and his partner.

Speaker 2:

So when I saw John Cena turn heel right, I was like this made me want to get back into wrestling. I ain't watch nothing. I can't do it. I only watch it because of Bianca Belair. Oh yeah, shout out to Bianca Knoxville baby, hometown hero. Yes, sir Come on, that's it. That's it. That's all it is. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, suplex that bitch, my club man Right there. Yeah, I hear that.

Speaker 2:

But you don't, though I do.

Speaker 3:

He don't.

Speaker 2:

Don't make me y'all. Man, thank y'all for listening to another episode of Late to the Party with Doty and Reggie and continue listening. Man, I am Reggie, I'm Doty Act like you know me, act like you.

Speaker 1:

We'll be back, that's one of them chronic jokes.

Speaker 2:

We'll be bad. That's one of them chronicles.

Speaker 1:

It will be bad, consistently Come on man.

Speaker 2:

Consistently.

Speaker 1:

My balls don't be moving.