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Chatterbox: Episode 3 - Mama Lou's Boys w/ Troy Smith
Brothers Troy and Reggie Smith reunite for a special edition of Chatterboxing, exploring their shared history and the different paths they've taken in life. Their candid conversation reveals how sibling influence shapes our journeys and how learning to ask for help might be the key to going farther.
• Troy expresses pride in Reggie's accomplishments and growth throughout life
• Reggie acknowledges how Troy inspired his music career and professional development
• Discussion of the tendency to take "the long way" instead of asking for help
• Troy's journey from boredom in his career to discovering a passion for barbecue
• Early cooking experiences making pancakes and biscuits from flour and water
• The brothers' shared perspectives on current music industry battles and celebrity controversies
• Reflections on building community versus trying to accomplish everything alone
• The wisdom that going with others helps you go farther in life, even if it's not faster
Follow Troy on social media @TroyMSmith35 and on YouTube at mostmoto365.
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Speaker 1:This is my big brother, captain T Troy Smith. Some of you may know him, and I'm still Reggie, nothing's changed. Troy Smith some of you may know him, and I'm still Reggie, nothing's changed. Reggie Smith Nothing's changed. Reginald Xavier whole government. Reginald Xavier Smith, whole government. Name Senior, senior when he was born. It is the senior, yeah, it's the senior.
Speaker 1:So we got a few things that we can talk about. What's on your mind today? First of all, man I, when are you going to record? And he wasn't getting a hint. He wasn't getting a hint to like literally set up so we can go ahead and record something. Let's go do something, because it's not all the time that we're able to do this. True, right, true. I live in a whole other city. It seems like it's in another state at far it is, but it ain't that far, though. It's really not. It's only two and a half hours. You can stretch a highway. Yeah, just stretch a highway. But I don't think he got the hint when I said, reggie, this is going to go ahead and record. Well, see, I got the hint, uh-huh Right, but you was really waiting it out. My brain was on what was about to happen, like what's going on? You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah, but we here, we here now. We here and we're chattering, and we chatter, yes, chatterbox. Oh man, we sound so good on the microphone. This is what we do.
Speaker 1:If y'all heard me talk about me doing musing and stuff, this is part of the reason that I got into music. My big brother heard him rapping, doing music, and he said I can do it better. Look, I don't usually lie when I talk about it. He has said it, I have said it a couple times, but he didn't like agree to it, but I was like, yeah, I mean, I was good, he is, he's much better, he's my favorite rapper. Yeah, I was good, yeah, yeah. So you know, though, this is why I wanted to record so much.
Speaker 1:I'm going to look at you in your eye. I'm proud of you, though. Oh, thanks, and I'm so thankful that you are my brother and we get to do it. I get to see you grow and flourish in whatever you be doing, because when you something polished, right, take a pile of doo-doo, then you pile it up and the next thing you know we got crap, crap. You got to add the accent. Wow, I thought that was just doo-doo. No, it's crap, okay, but no, I appreciate that man. Yeah, that's the truth, man, I like to, like, I tell the kids, I mean, when you do it, I mean do it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:It take me time, which you know. It take me time to actually start on things. Come this way. I think I need to go this way. It's, a bridge is out, but just come this way, because I feel like I can get it done without going the way everybody else is going. True, which sometimes it works, yeah, but also later on in life, I realized it was unnecessary. But you do it. Good though, you do get it. Yeah, thank you. So it might be, a bridge is out. You at least start building a bridge and then you may complete it and then you don't go across the bridge no more. No, I just I'd be like well, I got it done, I did it. That's what matters the most, that's all I need to do, but I do. I always looked up to you. I looked up to you at times. Now let me tell you, not looking up there, definitely not.
Speaker 1:What I'm saying is that you encourage me, man. You encourage me a lot. So when I seen you do like when you was, I always go back to it. But when you was a manager at one time, at 18 years old, and you're having these grown people come to you say, hey, rich, can I go take a smoke break? Yeah, you got five minutes. I'm like this through 18 because we got to keep the ball and then. But then I was in college, going to school to do stuff, to become somebody's manager. My brother's already doing it, then go to college at all. So they inspired me, you know, encourage me, and that's why I always try to help you. If I can encourage you, help you get to where you need to be, even if it's something a little bit here, I can just try to push it along to see you get there, man, and you do, and you do help. I appreciate it At least.
Speaker 1:Again, me trying to do it on my own. It took me time to even really ask him what machines to use for the podcast. Why is that? Tell me Tell the truth world, though, because I'm I feel like asking for help sometimes. Yeah, it's like a weakness thing. Oh. So I feel like let me figure it out and then, once I get there, I'll be like, see, I didn't need nobody.
Speaker 1:But the older I'm getting, I'm also understanding that you got to build that community which, just like you was telling me over there, I'm gonna give you so-and-so number. My brain, I have the number, but I can't, I can't, I don't know how to build on to, um, the connections I build. Oh, because I feel like I just do it, I'll get there on my own, don't worry about it. And the older you got, you start to notice that I can't get. I can get there, and it takes me a while to get there. If I go with someone, we're gonna get there together.
Speaker 1:Yeah, faster, quicker, maybe even better, you know, able to show it to the world a little bit quicker If you go further. So, like the saying says, if you want to go somewhere fast, excuse me, go by yourself, but if you want to go somewhere far, go with others. And that's the important part, you know, go with others If you can get there to use somebody else's experience. Or let's say this utilize, not use. Utilize somebody else's experience. Or let's say this utilize, not use. Utilize somebody else's experience to help you get there and go further. You actually may go further and get there quicker than you thought you would.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and and again, older. Yes, I think about even with music, when I was doing music. There are so many opportunities. That was there, and I was just like I don't need you though. Yeah, yeah, yeah, not saying that I always use that need as a like. If you need somebody, you just you don't know what you're doing, true, but it's not necessarily need, it's just a hey, we can do this together and end up.
Speaker 1:I turned down some things. Yeah, we know that. Yeah, we know, we know the main story. Now, that guy might be getting clowned now, but it would have been much funner, it would have been a better situation if you were there with him on the way. So I look back on stuff like that, but now I'm trying to let me calm down, because my wife tells me the same thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, you always go the long way for no reason. Hey, sometimes some people like to see the route, they like to see the scene and see the trees and see that there's no more. Does anybody live out here? There's nobody else here but me. Yeah, that can be kind of boring, and it is. It is sometimes.
Speaker 1:I found myself. That's where I am now even cutting hair right now, and I'm in that place by myself, and it was good in the beginning. Now I'm getting to a point where it's like I need some people, I need some friends, yeah, yeah, because I don't have nobody to talk to. That's a good example. Have you ever? I know your kids have grown now, but have you ever seen the movie Legos with Batman? Yeah, and when they got a song? When he's by himself. But when he became he was a superhero. He went home to the cave by himself, he went to go eat by himself, and it's like I have no friends. So what good is it to be a superhero and have everything you want with nobody to celebrate with? You know what I'm saying? Well, two things I want to talk about before we get out there. Let's go.
Speaker 1:What made you want to get into doing barbecue or being a grill master? So during my surgery process, I took time off. Now does people know about your surgery process? People know. If you don't know. I had weight loss surgery.
Speaker 1:So during that process of taking my time off at work, I'm just scanning through my cable TV. It's the only guy in the rest of the world that still has cable TV. I'm scanning through the channels and I run by Barbecue Pitmaster competition show. So I'm just watching it and I was like I can do that. Out the blue, out the blue. I was just like I think I can do that and Trisha's like what you mean? I think I can make a brisket. I've watched two episodes. I think I can make a brisket. So I got online, ordered a grill and then I thought I just needed a grill. But then there's different grills and now I'm just to a point where it's like I'll get into that.
Speaker 1:I can do that, but also I'm bored with my career. Oh, so that gives me something on the side to let me take my mind away from this for a second and just do something else. Now that'd be interesting if you weren't good. What Would you be bored with your career if you were not good or successful at it? That I don't know. That's not going to be a question for anybody. Hey, if you're looking at this whenever this is, I'm going to put it out If you don't put it out no-transcript. Think about that for a second, because people say they're bored with their career when they've actually thought they've made it, and I guess that's a part of it.
Speaker 1:I feel like during my in my career, it's like I'm doing it for it makes me money. Now Okay, but there's no in my mind. There's no level to get to Although there is. There's just nothing that I want to do. Like I don't want to do the stage competitions and all that stuff. I'm just cutting hair and it's like I need something else. Even though you can take that cutting hair to a higher level, possibly by charging different price, by going to more executive lines, I don't feel like and this might be stupid on my end I don't feel right charging people more for haircuts. So, like I just went up on the prices and as of right now, unless something crazy happened, I don't see me ever going up again. So I know I can start to advertise to um, maybe cutting celebrities or cutting people like that. Yeah, cutting celebrities, that's crazy. I say that because not a Paul stay.
Speaker 1:The fact is that you know, if Dave Chappelle started making $50 million, I suppose, and then, everywhere he went, they said hey, man, that's $30,000. You're like first it was just $15 before I came to the door, yeah, man, but you're making more money now. You're making more money now, $30,000 to cut. So they might be thinking that when you said that. But you know what's, crazy Aside, about celebrities, a lot of them don't want to pay you for haircuts. They say, dude, by me showing I get my hair cut by you, you might get paid more. You're going to get some.
Speaker 1:We had a rapper come to town. Okay, they was like hey, can you come to the hotel and cut me and the crew? All right, sure, although I don't like doing traveling cuts. Sure, this is what it's going to be. Oh well, he thought that you could do it just on the strength of oh no, so you just be there. You want me to pack up everything and come to the hotel.
Speaker 1:Now, I did still end up cutting two of his bodyguards. They came to the shop, but they paid you though. Yeah, they paid me. They came to the shop, got cut. Now, I don't. I mean, I do know who cut him eventually ended up cutting him For free. You don't know, I don't know, because you cut my hair. Yeah, it'll look a certain way for you, but no, not on my end, I don't do that. But yeah, I'm just kind of bored with my.
Speaker 1:I still love cutting hair and I love what I'm doing, but sometimes it's just like, and then I think being in that studio by myself kind of adds into man. I need something else to do. So that's where the brisket came. But you had the weight loss. So, knowing you can't eat none of this stuff, I can't even eat. I still can't eat certain stuff, but you're doing that.
Speaker 1:So the little bites I take on camera, usually y'all like to eat. That's how you do it. For the day, I take about two or three bites. I'm full. Look, y'all got Okay, so that's one thing. So you got into it and say I can do it better. I can do that, not just do it better. Yeah, I just think, watching them episodes, I'm just laying in a bed. I think I can make a brisket. So then you say you want to do something else. When you just lay in a bed, recuperate, you say I think I want to. Well, you said a lot of things. You to culinary school. I was like but guess what, though? You actually have been cooking.
Speaker 1:We just talked to our kids about he's been cooking for us for a long time. I like cooking Because he was the default as the middle child, right, the middle child always. So my mama said if our mama this is my real brother in real life yes, if our mama called, when you're in a single parent household, your mama may say, hey, and that A could be for everybody. Bring me something to drink. Me and Marcus would just look at each other, hey, and then Reggie, being tired of hearing it, he just gets up and go do it. So when it came down to it, when it came down to cooking something, hey, he go do it, I'm hungry, he going to do it.
Speaker 1:But guess what, though? Let me tell you what we was eating though. Straight up flour and water, making bread. That's nothing but paste in there, that's nothing but paste. We made pancakes. Pancakes out of bread, I mean out of flour and water. Biscuits out of flour and water Everything just flour and water. I mean that cannot be healthy at all, though, when you think about it? No, Not at all. No, it's just all sugar just sticks on your body. Look that, with syrup on it might be a biscuit and a pancake. I mean I just see that because Mrs Butter's work, but still I mean, yeah, so he's been cooking for a long time.
Speaker 1:So you thought you'd go to culinary school, yeah, so I was wanting to do that, and then I called UT because they got one at UT. I called them, I emailed them, talked about it. They was like, but our classes is only Tuesday, they was Monday through Friday, 8 to 5. I'm a barber, though, so that ain't going to work for me. So, flipping through channels, I came across that I saw people cooking. I was like your mama actually said that. She was like you don't need to go to school to cook, just start cooking. Just start cooking. That's right, look at that. That's your mama's way and that's all I've been doing. I mean I cook for the household anyway. Yeah.
Speaker 1:So, adding the grill to it and the barbecue type of guy, I mean I would do burgers Neither one of them Hot dogs and stuff like that. Anybody talking about no pulled pork? Hey, give me some grilled turkey, yeah. Yeah, ain't nobody doing all that, but now I'm trying to do it all. Yeah, you, that guy squeezing the juice out of it? Look at that. Ooh, cut some out of it. Make sure you follow me Like the Dane Old Porno. Look at this. You see this, yeah, and it looked good.
Speaker 1:And then I started watching people on YouTube and I'm like you know what that looked good? They would squeeze the meat, even though they say don't squeeze the meat, hey, pause, pause. But they say don't squeeze the meat, don't squeeze the meat. Then I did my hair like this what's that about? For what? Come on, man, squeeze the. That's what they call it. Muscle memory, muscle memory, muscle memory. It went right back to me. That's bad, that's bad, but, damn, that's what I'm doing, man, and that's my.
Speaker 1:They call it a weekend warrior. When you don't do Competition stuff, you Every weekend, you in the back, you just grilling, yeah, yeah, that's my goal, that's my Hobby right now. I don't want to say nothing else, but that's my hobby right now. And you did the music thing and all. So, as we know, I mean, when you go back to your food stuff, I mean when I say he was a manager, he was a manager of a local restaurant here at 18, 17, 18 years old. Everywhere he's gone, he's been a leader there. Now, without happening, he's like a de facto leader. He just hey, would you do this. And he just I'd do it and do it well, man. So kudos to you, man. Yeah, I appreciate you. I'm proud of you, dog, and I like that.
Speaker 1:I like the fact that my brother and I say that myself when I see my brother now, because by Reggie, like he said, when I see him doing what he was doing, I'm you all right, yeah, making sure it was recording. Sometimes you have memory cards that, oh, it's about done. No, we're good, we're good. I'm just glad to see, I'm just glad I get to spend some time with my brother. I mean, I'm glad when we do music. I love the fact when I did a song or something like that, he would be on it. I can say I'm going to get my brother on it. So when you apparatus set up, I gotta record something with him before he go, before I go. I'm going home Before he. I want to do something, just going home. I want to do something with my brother on the strip doing records. So I want to make sure we have something down In history. I was there when he did it. I did it before, but we had to do it virtually. Yeah, during the COVID thing.
Speaker 1:Covid was a fun time. It was an interesting time, interesting time. A lot of people make money now and it's like, yeah, they make money now, what that? You made it, you made it, but it Maybe, like you know, spray your bags and stuff like that. Just thinking about the stuff that we had to go through at those times and I couldn't work for six months, oh, yeah, that's right, and you definitely work on the by the job. Yeah, you had to do some Underground Railroad type stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we figured some things out.
Speaker 1:But in the beginning you meet me in the crawl space In the beginning, when you didn't know what was going on. Yeah, oh, that's true, and other people didn't care. I lost a couple of clients at that time because they was like you know what's funny, because they was like what, go ahead, finish it. But they was just saying like you can't cut me, like no, fam, I don't know what's going on. Now, looking back on it now you might want to say no, what shit happening? No, bump that. But I'm saying I didn't know what was going on Because I could just come to your crib, my house, with a car. You can't come to my house, you're bringing death to the doorstep. You can't come to my crib, dude.
Speaker 1:You got to tell us about that, though, real quick, about how, when you say you sick or something like and I done talked to you on the phone a couple of times hey man, I know you might be sick though, but can you still cut my hair how that make you feel when somebody do. I mean, hey man, I know you might be on your deathbed, but can you still get fit in? It's funny, because I said that to my wife the other day Like you could be going through the most traumatic thing in your life. Somebody will call you hey man, I ain't going to be able to cut this week.
Speaker 1:Death in the family yeah, I'm in surgery. Yeah, so you're not going to be in. None, you're not going to be here at all today, so you're not here today. What about tomorrow, fam, I won't be in this week. If I pay you more, you think you can cut. That's what I'm saying. No, I'm not going to be there, but no, I'm not going to be there, but they don't. Which, hey, I'm glad I got clients. That's like yeah, but I don't want nobody else cutting my hair. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but they don't give a damn about what you got going on. That's almost like when my wife say I got you tonight, and then you, like you know the whole day I'm thinking about tonight, right, I'm going to all of a sudden say, hey, I'm not the no, no, no, you said so, we ain't going to do nothing today.
Speaker 1:Let me ask you this real quick why is men right? Don't ask for much, not at all At all. Don't get in trouble, though. Don't get in trouble, though. Both wives are around and we record. So go ahead, finish your thought. This might be good For content, the one thing, that's it, that's one.
Speaker 1:But when you Cause, you gotta ask for it. You got to. So when you ask for it, do you have to? Okay, but when you ask for it On day one, right, you get a no, right, yeah. You ask for it on day one, right, you get, you get a no, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what, on day two, it's like. Is that how you think about it? Yes, I mean, I've been doing this for a long time, I've been doing this for a very long time, but that's all I think about. I've noticed that that's. I want to roll over it, but yeah, but if you, if you, if you get the apple, you might not have a taste for that apple. The next you might not, you might not, but if you get it, not too bad, not too bad, can I have another one of these? Can I have another one of these? Yeah, all right, squash it All right, let's go. We're going to move on from that before anybody gets in trouble. This right here. I got to ask you before we dip Yo, what's up? This is fun. I love my brother doing this. Yeah, this is nice, but you got to talk.
Speaker 1:I want to know what your thoughts on Cassie and P Diddy case. Very quick, I'm putting on the line right now. We so look, this is my thing on Cassie's stuff. I don't know right, there's a lot with the trial. Some things have came out that Cassie agreed to, but like, because there's a thing about I'm going to just start with the drug use, right, and it was like Diddy got her, got her own drugs and then, but people like now they're like, yeah, but he tried to get her off of drugs, but if you introduce it to her in the wrong way, did he introduce it to her? That was the word, because they, bobby, get introduced to introduce whitney the drugs, or did whitney introduce bobby, whitney introduced bobby. But we found out about that win Later on, after when she After yeah, all that, yeah, mm-hmm, but but Okay, okay, just because let's say she enjoys the free golf.
Speaker 1:Right, she said it, she said she enjoys it. So let's not say it Not allegedly. She enjoyed the free golf. Yes, right, just because she enjoyed this free golf don't mean she want to be in part of all the free golfs, but the data shows. She said I can't wait to the next one. She might not be able to wait to the next one. No, she said I can't wait until the next, like meaning I want to do it again. Yeah, the next one, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like meaning I want to do it again. Yeah, the next one, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then she said also that, hey, I want to do this to make sure that he didn't do it with nobody else, right, it's a whole lot of damning material coming out.
Speaker 1:At first it come out to say he made me do it on my time of the month, and then you got oh, wait, wait, wait, can I show you this? It says that are you at that time of the month. You say yes. He says okay, we do it another time. You say no, I'm good. Well, now you caught up in something.
Speaker 1:But you got two things to worry about. You want to do it or you don't. You don't want to do it. If you don't want to do it, if you don't want to do it, you ain't got nothing to worry about. But if you want to do it, you got two more things to worry about. You got two more things to worry about. But I understand that. I understand. But you also. You get to a point where if she was forced into it, right, maybe she don't want nobody else to happen to her, but now she done got hooked on the life that you forced her into in the beginning. Now she's just used to it. She's forced, got it, just used to it. Now she's forced into it. What they call it Stockholm. Yeah, oh God. I just wanted to say Don't hit me with the Stockholm syndrome. I just wanted to say Don't hit me with the Stockholm.
Speaker 1:The whole point is Diddy's on trial for RICO charges, criminal enterprise ideas, all that stuff, but right now it's looking like someone else was in part running it. Yeah, what if it backfired. Well see, I don't get the RICO because there's only one person on trial, that's right. There's one person on trial racketeering all the other stuff, yeah, and there's nothing showing about no traffic and it just shows a domestic type issue. So we and all the other stuff, yeah, and there's nothing showing about no traffic and it just shows a domestic type issue. So we're not on traffic.
Speaker 1:Even with all that going, I do think they only gonna get him on like some prostitution shit, like who, who, him or her, I mean. What I'm saying is in the sense of him flying people in, but he didn't pay for it. From what I've seen, it showed that she was the one choosing the guys and paying for them and the dudes on the trial the guys that had come show up allegedly not allegedly. They said that hey, she the one paid me. I didn't get paid by him. But this is also not a trial for Cassie and Dizzo. It's not Just like it wasn't a trial for Megan and Tory Lanez, but what I'm saying is they brought so that Tory Lanez thing was about him having a gun Correct In California.
Speaker 1:Their main witness was Megan because he supposedly shot her with the gun Right. He lost. I was surprised he lost. I'm not surprised he lost, oh yeah. Only because if there's evidence showing that somebody else did it, you're on trial. But you also say, nah, that person didn't do it. Oh, you see, you shouldn't have said that. He said that, yeah, he testified to himself and said that he didn't testify, but the lawyers was like him talking and doing what he doing, because he still was dropping music, he was still rambling. Oh yeah, and that's right, he was doing too much. If there's evidence showing that Kelsey did shoot the gun, whether you aimed it at her or not, oh, the other girl, the other girl. So if there's evidence showing that she did it. But then you say I didn't do it, but she also didn't do it, it's only two people. And the bodyguard, the driver, didn't show up. Yeah, yeah, he was a big witness too. He dipped down, he was a big.
Speaker 1:Well, I think Torrey's lawyers Trash, terrible Trash, because they were saying, not Torrey's lawyers, but the other people was like we have other witnesses, but we have to prep them. And Torrey's lawyers was like nah, this is going to stretch the trial out a little too long. So, nah, nah, this is going to stretch the trial out a little too long. So nah, we good, let's wrap it up. So do you think PD is going to get off on? I think he's going to serve some time. He already served it. You think he's going to get time served. He's not going to be in there for long, though.
Speaker 1:Is it going to be an 8 week trial, and they got something on them? They would have showed it now. The first week should have been the straight bomb. That's why I think they don't have nothing Right, because I think Cassie is they big, because there's video of Cassie getting beat, that one video, that one video, but it's still there. It still exists. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying. I think they banking on showing that to the court and saying, see, this is what he do, but I think that should have been later on, like after y'all, kind of. But they set in the stage, for you know, I'm saying like it's nigga crazy. Yeah, I think they could say he crazy, he's freaking nasty and all that stuff, but that's not what he's gonna try for. He's gonna try for that. So, just like when cassie said, if you don't get rid of this video, she said she actually threatened someone to say I will have you killed. Yeah, so that's what I was talking to my wife about.
Speaker 1:It's funny that how people, if it is beneficial to you, it's all good, like abortion is all good. No, it's not good Not saying it, but abortion, I'm coming. Okay now, abortion is not good if it ain't got nothing to do for you. If it all of a sudden, it's okay if you have to do it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, just like. When it comes down to it, I can threaten somebody and do all this other stuff, okay, but now I just want to. I mean, it's not beneficial to me, no more. So I feel bad.
Speaker 1:Somebody made me do it. That is it. Yeah, you used the benefit and power before, but now it's not beneficial. So I'm going to back out and I didn't want to do it. And he made me do it, I think. But he did. He groomed her in the beginning. Oh God, he groomed her in the beginning. So everybody get groomed when you're a certain age, but when they doing this, all good, until you not want to do it. Now you groom me. Yeah, it's almost like Shannon Sharpe. Shannon Sharpe was so green, shannon Sharpe was so that's a simp. That's just stupid. Hey, that was. I mean, shannon Sharpe's a cool dude and all that sound like she was recording.
Speaker 1:You Don't do this, shannon. I would have been like why you change your voice like that? Why you talking like that? She's like so what are we doing? Again? You said you were going to choke. You said, fam, it sounds awful, I'm going to call you back. Click, something ain't right. Why you talking like that? She ain't never sounded like that. You going to choke me, right? Yeah, at 430?, yeah, yeah. And he, like, I'm going to choke you in public one more time. Say it again. Who said, who said what if I choke you in public? How that look, big black man choking. Don't choke me, shannon, but if you move that way, I mean, hey, he got caught up in that Green, though Super green Young one. He's a greenback. He's a greenback.
Speaker 1:Well, anything you want to ask before we go, man, anything you had a thought about as a host oh man, I was unprepared, almost. We're never unprepared, we're always ready to go Unprepared. No, not really. Have you been paying attention to any of the battle raps going on right now? So the last Big Shine now. And all that, yeah, going on right now. So the last that with Big Sean and them and all that? Yeah, so can you. So Reggie is my person, I speak and call, ask questions about music stuff. I would like to know.
Speaker 1:So the guy from, is it Devon, devon or whatever? The guy from TV, rayvon Rayvon, rayvon, he's the one now. His verse was dope. Yeah, he was fire. Then Joey I think another podcast said it best when it come down to regions, yeah, when Joey Badass was rapping, it didn't seem, I guess, his region or where he's from. Yeah, where he's from. He sounded like he was cooking them. Yeah, but I'm not from the West Coast and that dude was bomb. I mean, that was killing it. I was like that's dope. So what they beefing? Is it because Joey Badass went after the West Coast people? So pretty much Okay.
Speaker 1:So at the beginning of the year, joey Badass dropped a song called A Ruler's Back. Okay, so it actually starts in January. Okay, he calls out Kendrick because he really wants to battle Kendrick. Right, which Kendrick? He better be careful. We see what happened when somebody calling Kendrick out, he ain't saying nothing and he ain't saying nothing. But again, just like they did with Drake, everybody was like Kendrick's picking a good time to go at Drake because Drake was on tour but Drake tour was ending. Joey calling out Kendrick in the middle of the tour. His tour don't end until likeember or august or something like that.
Speaker 1:So right now calling them out and he don't respond quickly, because nowadays you gotta respond quick. If he don't respond back to joey, the online minions will be like joey's joey one. You keep calling him out. Right, but joey made the rulers back. He called out the west coast. He, he aimed at kendrick, jay cole. Jay cole is not responding. He, jay cole, just smart. Now he like I'm not saying nothing and he better not say nothing. I think he should. He better not. No, look, so he's in a lose-lose situation. Regardless, regardless. He should have stayed because if he, if he, if he responds to joey, it's gonna be like oh, but what about cook? You don't do it in your mouth, right? If he, if somebody calls you out and you still you don't respond, you still look crazy because it's like so you just gonna let this nigga just stomp all over you. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:But Joey just set the tone for battle, rap, for the competition. Daylight responded, then Ray Vaughn came out and then they did the cypher, which is the Red Bull cypher. Oh, the Red Bull cypher is last. Yeah, right, those two verses and things like that was before the Red Bull thing. Nah, the cypher came. And then Ray Vaughn responded again Okay. And then Joey responded Okay, now you got Reason jumping in, which Reason did a great job, but no one cares about you.
Speaker 1:It's almost like Big Sean on Forge. Big Sean, he get left behind regardless. Every time Big Sean can rap to me, he can rap his ass off. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But the only thing about Big Sean can rap to me, he can rap his ass off. But the only thing about Big Sean. And it started with the Control Verse because it was Big Sean's song. And then Kendrick just called out everybody in 2013 or 2012. Which he wasn't talking like. Big Chris said he didn't even diss him on it. He didn't diss nobody. He was just like this is competition. And he even said I got love for y'all, but I'm trying to murder y'all which is love for y'all, but I'm trying to murder y'all which is in.
Speaker 1:I've done songs with other people, just like that, where, hey, let's go at each other on this song, not in a like I hate you type of way, like decipher did decipher, they went each other a little bit right there, everything's cool and that's why this, this rap competition right now, I actually like, because I don't feel like it's gonna get to a pedophile or a woman beater and stuff like that. You know what I'm saying, which, if it's just strictly rap, I think it's good. The only reason I think it's going to fall apart because it's going to end up being a bunch of people that nobody cares about rapping to each other. Nobody cares. I'm not going to lose any.
Speaker 1:When Drake was doing all that, I was up all night calling Reggie, did you? And then we on the phone and Reggie say, dude, he just dropped. You know what I'm saying? That was the two, that was the two titans going at each other. Right, right, right now. This, like when it was Kendrick and Drake, they gain new fans from it. The casual listener is not they not caring about this right now.
Speaker 1:The hip hop in me, I'm on it, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm listening to it. I want to know everything. Right, right, right. But if you not, most people don't even know who Reason is. No, a lot of people don't know Joey Badass. No, and that's'd been on. Yeah, I didn't know he actually was a person Like I'm not a person, but like a person that's like need to be known about. Yeah, yeah, no, he gave his album 1999, back in 2000 and whatever. Which great album. But then he went to acting. He did, yeah, he acts on power, he's on power, okay, but he's a bigger actor than he is.
Speaker 1:A rapper I probably done seen him and don't even know who he is. Yeah, you don't know who he is. What's his real name? Travis Joner or something? Joner or something? Oh shit, I don't even know his real name. I bet if I knew his regular name, it's like people probably don't know.
Speaker 1:I remember when I went to the movies one time and Tyrese was singing. I watched a Floyd Mayweather fight in the movies back in 2007. When Floyd came out of retirement Falk Marquez, whatever they had it in the theaters and Tyrese was singing the national anthem. We know Tyrese from R&B. And one of the little white kids said when did Tyrese start singing? I'm like God, this dude been in the movies so long. Nobody remember that he was an actual. Nobody knew Ice Cube. People said that about Will Smith when he just came out. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:It was like you get comments like people like oh, it's good to see him trying something else, he should stick to movies. This dude was a rapper at first. He's the first rapper Grammy winner. You know what I'm saying, so it's just. But yeah, the whole battle thing is going to eventually fall apart because, again, drake and Kendrick, they set the tone. So when they was going back and forth every day, or in them three hours of whatever they was doing, it was exciting.
Speaker 1:Now you got Joey Badass from the north to the, from the east. You, you got Joey Badass from the north, from the east, you got five different rappers from the west coast. Nobody's going to show up to the fight. No, no one cares. It's like what they do when, uh, what's that dude, bobby Smurda, selling tickets, and he's selling five or six tickets. That's sad, though, and you got millions that fall. Only five people buying a ticket. Yeah, yeah, no, that's interesting. It looks a way, it looks a certain way. It looks a certain way, but no one. Yeah, this is going to fall apart eventually.
Speaker 1:Everybody's waiting for Daylight to drop. Though A turd he be doing antics. It be so crazy. He do extra stuff. He used to do it a lot more. He done settle down Because he probably 50. How old is this dude? But he but as probably about 40, 50. But as a battle rapper and I love battle rap it's going to be interesting Because he made a song a couple weeks ago where he was already predicting Joey Badass lyrics.
Speaker 1:Joey Badass and the Cypher was doing all these daylight flips and they was cool. But if you go back to the song Daylight dropped a couple weeks ago called Backpack, he was saying you're going to say this, you're going to do this, you're going to do this. You're going to say da-da-da-da-da daylight. I'm a battle rapper. They already been used. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:So to the fans that's just now hearing the flips, they like, oh my God, he's going crazy To me. We know he done, said he was gay, he not gay, whatever that type, all that stuff, do all this. It's like, yeah, tim, I don't know, it's already out there. It's going to be interesting to see what he say, but I don't think if they start dropping too many tracks, it's going to be like all right, cuz, just wrap it up, call it a day, which we about to do. We're going to wrap it up right quick. But I asked you this last bit Go ahead.
Speaker 1:Is Kanye done? Yeah, he done, yeah. Like like nobody takes him serious, no more at all. No, they just like ah. He put out an album drop and he only sold 6,000 copies first week, and I usually don't even care about. Is it because it wasn't under his name? Part of it? I still think if it would have been under Kanye, it would have done better than 6,000, but I don't think it would have made a dent in anything because it's still out and nobody's going to it, even after they found out that it's under Donda, which is interesting. Well, man, hey.
Speaker 1:Shout out to Mamalu. This is Mamalu Boyz, right here, yeah, we are. Shout out to Knoxville, man, great place to grow up, I'm out of there, but a great place to grow up. Shout out to my brother Reggie yes, sir, straight up and him and his podcast and also the other podcast with Late. To the Party with Doty, right, yeah, I'm Doty, I'm Doty. Shout out to my dude, doty man. Shout out to Doty. And then also Follow me at TroyMSmith35 On all social media YouTube, mostmoto365, m-o-s-t-m-o-t-o-365. And I'm grateful and I'm proud of my brother, though. I appreciate you Much, love, man. I like this little 30 minute conversation yeah, 38 minutes and 11 seconds, yeah, we good. Yeah, yeah, well, hey, I guess we end it. Ta-da. Thank you for listening to Chatterbox and I'll catch y'all on the next episode, peace.